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I'd like to start a discussion about TV privacy in 2023. I've never been interested in having a TV, but recently I was thinking of getting one. Looking into it, the privacy implications seem horrible. All the major brands seem to have cameras, microphones, and content recognition software. I can't believe how dystopian it is.

I also notice that most of the articles about this are from a few years ago. Are things better now? Do they still collect an Orwellian amount of data?

As I understand it, there are a few mitigation options:

  1. Leave it disconnected from the internet and use a separate device for streaming. But it sounds like some brands have incessant nag screens, or disable features until connected to the internet. I was looking into the Samsung Frame TV, but I'm not even sure you can use the art mode without internet. Does anyone know?
  2. Pi-hole set up with a blocklist. It's disheartening that such a technical solution would be necessary.
  3. Get a commercial "dumb" display. These are more expensive, and usually thicker.
  4. Go through the menu and disable privacy violating settings. Does this work? I'm doubtful.

edit: Just to be clear, I am NOT talking about the normal sort of ad tracking that happens when you use streaming services. Netflix knows what you’re watching regardless of what device you use. I’m talking about stuff like a hidden camera recording your facial reactions, microphones recording your private conversations, and screen recording of your viewing activities. This is sci-fi dystopia level creepy.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

A german magazine just made a video on that topic. You can activate english subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBSEHpU-pyI
They tested a bunch of smart tvs and tv-sticks and their network activites.
They say that roku devices were the most privacy friendly tv-sticks.

And if you dont care about warranty voiding, open the tv and tape the things you dont want. Mic, cam, etc. Its probably the cheapest option

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They say that roku devices were the most privacy friendly.

Really? I remember the exact opposite. Isn't it the brand that requires you to connect the TV to internet (and maybe even register am account, but I'm not sure about that now) before you can use it for anything?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that seems odd. Wouldn’t the Apple TV be the most privacy friendly commercial streaming box?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why does a TV need a fucking camera?