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What's your frame of reference? I mean, you live in the second best country in the world and you're complaining.
The cities are completely unaffordable.
All of the parties are in favour of using TFW programs to suppress workers rights and not doing anything about blatantly illegal anti-worker activities.
The Trudeau government is welcoming immigrants at a rate of at least 3% of the population per year(not the problem), but not spending a penny on infrastructure to support that kind of increase(a big problem)
Carbon offset credits are a complete joke.
The ISPs are in charge of the body that is supposed to regulate and rein them in.
BC is being devastated by climate change and Ottawa isn't lifting a damn finger on it.
Our generation's: Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.
Except in this case it's that the average rent for a 1 bedroom apartment in the GVRD requires a yearly earning of over 120k a year.
Glad to hear its economy can support its 2,642,825 million (and growing!) residents.
Extra-judicial killings? Industrialized rape? Daily mass murders? Famine?
You listed a bunch of first world problems. It's hard to imagine what hardship truly is when you live in the second best country in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality_against_Indigenous_Canadians
https://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/sexual-abuse-in-the-military-soldiers-speak-of-systemic-problems-in-a-toxic-culture-1.5654309
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/opp-officer-sexual-assault-jason-redmond-1.6797839
https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/newfoundland-police-officer-found-guilty-of-on-duty-rape-once-again-seeking-bail-1.6494845
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/quebec-investigation-alleged-abuse-aboriginal-women-1.3577527
Setting an awfully low bar with this one.
Any year now, given climate change.
Your own privilege within the country is just dripping from your posts.
Canada also kept slaves 150 years ago.
How many of the people pissing and moaning on Lemmy have experienced any of those things?
Its all relative, and clearly you aren't having the hardships that a lot of our country is currently enduring.
I have been places that makes me appreciate Canada for what it truly is.
I have perspective.
No - you're a well off white guy who doesn't experience the bad parts of Canada.
Broadly - sure - Canada is awesome.
Sprinkle in some nuance and the pimples are obvious if you open your eyes.
There is always room for improvement.
I'm a socialist who had spent time in truly horrible places. I have perspective. Canada has problems, yes, but they are first world problems.
Its not fair to dismiss the problems of the people who lead very difficult lives in this country because someone on the other side of the planet has it worse there.
Where is your perspective on that?
"Sorry, I know you have an unhappy and difficult life but you should just learn to be greatful because I saw people over yonder who have a different kind of difficult life."
You keep saying people need perspective, I think you do. You look at this country through rose coloured glasses.
I don't dismiss the legitimate complaints of people who live in Canada. There are problems. I've said that repeatedly throughout these comments. What I'm saying is that Canada isn't any of the things the neo-Nazis and the tankies say it is. It isn't a dictatorship. It isn't turning into a third world shithole. Our Prime Minister isn't a Marxist and neither was his father. Canada is a great country and a great place to live. Wealth inequality is a big fucking problem. Corruption is a big fucking problem. The erosion of workers rights is a big fucking problem. Capitalism has run its course and it's time for a change. That doesn't mean that Canada is a bad place to live and the people who say it is is are entitled, whiney idiots.
I agree wholeheartedly with all of that. If you've stated those things throughout these comments, for some reason I cannot see them, so I apologize for harping on you.
I just disagree that it is the 2nd best country in the world to live in. Where it accurately lands I cannot say, but #2 is not it. And that's okay. I still love this country.
I do as well. I think it's the best country in the world to live in. I've been lots of places, many high on that list and many very low on that list, and I would not choose to live in any of them instead of Canada.
Well... the Canadian media did spent an inordinate amount of time trying to prove the Trudeau was not the love child of a self-proclaimed Marxist, which was quite strange as it makes absolutely no difference who his farther is.
I'm not sure that it was the media that did that. I suspect that it was the alt-right media ("alt" being their preferred pronoun instead of the more accurate "extreme").
And...who is father is only matters to the right. No one else gives a shit about what other people are doing in the privacy of their own bedrooms.
Global News, National Post to name a couple.
I wouldn't exactly call those outlets left leaning, but alt-right?
And that earlier commenter who was overly concerned about who his father was, making sure we knew he was the one that wasn't a Marxist, as if that matters. Crazies to be found everywhere, I suppose.
This seems really important to you. It isn't to me.
My frame of reference is how my quality of life is less than it was in like 2016. When Iβm sure Canada ranked lower than #2
Canada was ranked second in 2016.
Damn, these rankings really are scary.
Like I said, if I live in the second best country to live in β¦ the world really sucks
Canada is the 12th safest country in the world. The US is 129th.
We have it very good here.
Can we just stop comparing ourselves to the States for once? Our Literally Fascist Neighbours don't warrant any consideration when discussing the quality of life here.
Which segments of the population are you choosing to speak for here, exactly?
The people who complain about Canada often hold the US up as an example of what Canada should be because they can have guns, have hate speech, and are free to discriminate against people they hate
I hold any country in western Europe as being at least twice as good as here now.
That we ranked above any of them is an outright joke. I'm only still here because of family and relationships.
I'm about to shake your world. Ready?
What you believe doesn't change reality. Your feelings don't matter.
Sorry.
In some aspects sure. Try being at the beginning of your adult life right now. Housing, the cost of food/goods, a lethargic/apathetic government. Those things should be enough evidence to say that we aren't the second best country in the world.
And yet...they aren't. Canada ranks very high in quality of life, personal and religious freedom, and many other measures. There are problems, yes, but they are problems effecting the second best country in the world to live in. People living other places are dying to come here.
Perspective.