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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.

A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.

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A post on Ask Lemmygrad by user Cyber Ghost titled "What are the reasons why Russia attacked Ukraine?"

Below is the comment by user @cfgaussian reading: "The Nazi Kiev regime attacked the ethnically Russian Donbass for eight years intending to commit genocide in their quest for an ethnically pure Ukraine and Russia finally came to their aid after it became clear that the Minsk agreements were never going to be honored. Also, NATO was turning Ukraine into a hyper militarized threat to the integrity and security of Russia itself. Refusal of the US and Europe to negotiate on a new inclusive security framework, refusal to stop NATO expansion eastward, and the relentless and violent anti-Russian psychosis that has gripped Ukraine since the Maiden coup that triggered a civil war in a country in which half or more of the population are essentially Russian became intolerable."

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[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (12 children)

OG OP actually asked a good question. Aside from regional cultural claims and geopolitical military perks Ukraine also holds massive significance for its ports, grain production, and the oil pipeline that crosses from Russia to Western Europe.

Not condoning Russia's actions, from it, but if they had managed to get away with it they'd be in a vastly better position on the world's stage.

[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's what I don't get. All these tankie morons are hiding behind the flimsiest of "Nazi persecution" lies. Ukraine is just flat out amazing for Russia strategically, it's very clear what they wanted. Not to mention some fat ore reserves they have parked in the ground for burgeoning industries.

But no, it has to be Nazis and Western agendas while they bomb schools and residential neighborhoods with these extremely accurate bombs they possess but choose not to use...

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because propaganda dictates that you need to the moral high ground in war. Else its very difficult to sell to your soldiers the idea of dying in foreign land.

And that propaganda seems to be awfully effective, judging from lemmygrand and hexbear comments (even though I am pretty sure some of those users do not really believe it, but are paid to write those comments)

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't get why bots have to be part of the argument. People being stupid or having a backwards political agenda is a valid and sufficient explanation when talking about the right. We tend to forget that Lemmy is more like the backrooms of the internet than a politically relevant platform and dedicating bots or paid trolls for such a small community seems a little exaggerated to me. Fringe parts of the internet are far easier to sway with a small group of obnoxious people than, say, Reddit.

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