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I think the alternative is living out in the wild, fending for yourself. As much as I hate the inequality and mediocrity of modern life, it’s something of a step up from living like that. I love watching Primitive Technology, but I probably couldn’t handle that life. Imagine spending hours collecting fire wood, spending hours/days turning it into charcoal and building a clay oven just to fire up some shit you picked up from the river in hopes of getting a few globules of iron, to make like a small shank or a spear tip or something (after maybe weeks of effort). Oh, and you’re having to get your own food and maybe bathe yourself every so often. Super interesting to watch, but holy shit is that alot of work for so little (compared to what we’re used to seeing). Life is work.
It’s not, actually. The majority of human history is neither humans fending for themselves, nor submitting to wage slavery. Humans are collaborative, social beings. Even the nuclear family is an aberration on our otherwise multi generational and communal shared history.
Yeah, all human societies worked together on large communal projects and would make things and exchange it with others through barter. We still do those things fairly regularly.
Sure, it wouldn't work for a large an complex project like going to the moon, but that wasn't done by a capitalist company either.
Barter, as was taught to me at least, is mostly a myth. Barter certainly existed, but we have no evidence to support barter as the primary method of trade in any period of history. It primarily existed, where it did exist, as a way for people from disparate cultures to trade, within communities barter was nearly non existent, and most things were done in a sort of social credit system for much of history.
https://youtu.be/hTREU-xVeY0?si=qRTOs6AuK0Z2jWGs
Here's a source for you. It will help your argument. As someone who has actually studied it, I agree with your hypothesis.
https://youtu.be/hTREU-xVeY0?si=qRTOs6AuK0Z2jWGs
The VAST majority of human history disagrees. Humans are collaborative not competitive naturally.
I don't think he mentioned competition in his comment, rather he's stating the bare minimum for survival
You're correct, I misread.