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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.

A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.

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An 8-panel Phoebe Teaching Joey meme.

The first panel is Phoebe from Friends saying "Russia".

The second panel is Joey from the same show replying with "Russia".

The third panel is Phoebe saying "has invaded".

The fourth panel is Joey repeating back "has invaded".

The fifth panel is Phoebe saying "Ukraine".

The sixth panel is Joey repeating back "Ukraine".

The seventh panel is Phoebe saying the completed phrase "Russia has invaded Ukraine".

The final panel shows Joey proudly proclaiming "NATO just started a proxy war".

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is not justified in invading Ukraine,

Well there ya go, what else is there to talk about?

but let's not ignore that Ukraine is yet another proxy war that the US uses to destroy other countries and retain sole superpower status

Golly, how could Russia have possibly avoided this war? Hm, maybe by not invading.

This behavior isn't some insane conspiracy theory, it's all laid out in the Wolfowitz Doctrine

Ooh, sounds scary. I guess if the US wants to be the sole superpower, it makes anything Russia does in order to try and be a superpower totally ok, and we should let em do it.

Putin played into their hand by invading and he was absolutely wrong to do so, but he was losing Ukraine anyway so he probably figured "fuck it".

"Fuck it, if these people want to voluntarily, democratically seek closer economic and political ties to Europe, what's the difference? I should probably kill hundreds of thousands of my own troops and hundreds of thousands more civilians in a devastating military fiasco riddled with war crimes."

You can see how that's not better, right?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You obviously see the world in black and white. Someone can be not justified in doing something yet have reasons for doing them, just like how someone isn't justified in physically beating someone up over words but you could see why it'd come to that, depending on the words and the situation. "I would simply not invade" is a braindead take for something as vast and complicated as geopolitics. Seriously, put some thought into your worldview. You have about as much nuance as a picture book for kindergartners.

Then again, your stance appears to be "I guess if the US wants to be the sole superpower we should let them" Then you follow it up with literal CIA propaganda about "the people" wanting this or that. Golly gee the people have spoken here https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k

That would be like saying "the people" wanted Jan 6th to happen but the big bad government quashed the people's movement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That would be like saying "the people" wanted Jan 6th to happen but the big bad government quashed the people's movement.

I guess Russia had better invade us so they can ensure we do the thing we actually wanted to do all along, but at gunpoint!