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Ubuntu was planning to ship the CUPS printing stack as a Snap in 23.10 — but after several months of testing, its changed its mind.

Accordingly, a DEB-based printing stack will feature in Ubuntu 23.10 “Mantic Minotaur” and in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. Switching to the CUPS Snap will now aim to take place during the Ubuntu 24.10 development cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like Flatpak and despise Snap (on a personal computer, it's tolerable on a server) enough to sudo apt remove and purge snapd from a new installation. The startup time is slow and I hate having snaps as mountpoints. It doesn't help that Firefox is by default a Snap on Ubuntu - it feels as if you're starting it on a mechanical HD with a Core2Duo processor and you can really appreciate how stupid having such a core app as a browser is as Snap when you add the PPA and install it as a deb package. Don't even get me started on the asinine "we update when we want to" that makes you restart your browser at most inopportune times. I hate Snap so much it's unreal.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel exactly the same and stopped using Ubuntu entirely once they started using apt to install snaps. Have you recently purged Ubuntu of snaps? Last time I tried it was an absolute nightmare to upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We remove snap as a first thing on new server installs, and other than the few dormant folders left behind we have 0 issues. Once that stops working we’ll move to Debian I wanna switch now but need something like this to get the rest of the team onboard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't upgrade Ubuntu, just unmount home, tar the configs for reference and install the new one. I've lost more time in the past to hunting gremlins on an upgrade than doing a clean install and applying my configs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Actually snap desktop may be alright. I tried Ubuntu core os and the performance isn't so bad

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard the PPA for Firefox is a Snap now as well, FYI.

[–] cmeerw 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't believe everything you hear. It's still available as a .deb: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, thanks for correcting me. Always better to have accurate information.