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President Joe Biden says he will request more funding for a new coronavirus vaccine
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Who fucking cares. I’m so tired of the coronavirus. I got the first vaccine, and all 3 boosters. Plus I caught corona. Twice. I don’t fucking care any more. Let’s talk about housing. Let’s talk about minimum wage. Let’s talk about healthcare. I’d take dental care and optical at this point.
Huh. So you're saying all my sister, father-in-law, sister-in-law, brother-in-law, and cousins have to do to get over their various long COVID symptoms is declare they're tired of it? Holy shit, I'm calling them all right away!
I’m saying. If they are already dealing with long Covid a new vaccine isn’t going to fix that. Sure, it may keep them from catching it again, but They’ll still have long Covid until they don’t.
Covid isn’t going away at this point. EVER. This is now something we have to live with. There will now be a constant threat of covid hanging over our heads. I’m not saying that new vaccines shouldn’t be developed, but it also shouldn’t be big news. Every year a new flu vaccine comes out, and every year a new Covid vaccine will have to roll out. This is life now.
COVID-19 still kills at least ten times the number of people that the flu does, causes far more hospitalizations, and leaves far more people with debilitating long-term illness. Until that changes, I am absolutely fine with getting information out there when a new and improved vaccine is in the works or ready, and I'm having trouble understanding why someone wouldn't be.
No one's forcing you to read news about it. You could have skipped this article.
Since, no one has answered my replies. I’m going to keep asking the questions. I want the new vaccine. I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but how much will it cost? Do you think these vaccines will be no cost to the American people forever? I just literally took out a loan to get a tooth filled. Vaccines are less effective when less people take them right? So, how’s it going to work this time?
How much will it cost?
For now, the vaccines will continue to be free. It's in the public interest to get vaccines into as many arms as possible.
Will the vaccines be free forever?
Probably not, but I don't see them having a cost to the consumer for a long time. Not until the dominant strains are no more dangerous than influenza.
Are vaccines less effective when fewer people get them?
Yes, especially with a rapidly mutating virus.
How's it going to work this time?
Probably similar to the prior booster shots.
Thank you for responding. I agree with a lot of what you said. The parts I don’t agree with mainly have to do with a lack of faith in in the US government to do what’s right. In other words. I think they will start charging for vaccines when they decide the losses will be acceptable. Which will probably be long before it’s on par with the flu.
But, I’d just like to point out that with socialized medicine. We wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Also, you didn’t have to answer your question about are they less effective if less people get them. I had already stated that. When I was saying that if people have to pay for them then less people get them making them less effective.
I guess I should have said “I’m tired of hearing about things that I’m too poor to benefit from”. Maybe that’s how I should have worded it.
Sorry, but your assumption is wrong. Available studies show post-COVID vaccination may be able to help long COVID symptoms.
"Three of the five studies of vaccination after the infection showed significant reductions in patients with long covid, but none showed any harm of vaccination."
From this study: https://bmjmedicine.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000385
Well, I hope it does help them. After all, no one deserves to suffer unnecessarily. If there is a treatment then that’s good.
There are a lot of things that make me question the validity of what is said in that paper, but honestly I’m not really interested in debating your hope for your loved ones.
Just to be clear. I hope it does work like that. A long shot is still a shot. I’ve hung my medical needs on a Hail Mary and won. So…
I hope you have a good night, or day or whatever. I don’t know where you are.
I’ll take the L on this one.
Ugh, if only we knew we could have fixed it years ago by saying we’re tired of it. That would have saved a lot of hassle.
Research into vaccines doesn’t preclude any of those conversations and coronavirus still uses up lots of health resources. Better vaccines for new variants would help healthcare in general.
So, I guess you don’t know how viruses work? Well they mutate really fast. So you constantly have to make new vaccines to deal with the new variants. See, if you had known this about viruses. Then you would have known from the beginning that new vaccines at least every year would be part of the deal, and then this wouldn’t be news at all.
I think everyone should get their vaccine if they can afford it. After all in America flu vaccines cost money, and I guarantee these new COVID vaccines won’t be free. I mean at some point these pharmaceutical companies have to make money right?
That’s why I’m tired of it. I want the vaccine. Hell, I want treatment for TMJ. But if you can’t afford it. All the cool new vaccines in the world won’t matter.
They said it late in the pandemic too: we may be tired of that virus but unfortunately it doesn't care and it is not done with us.
Oh, I know. Is this vaccine going to be free? I would like the new vaccine. Like, I’m not an anti-vaxxer. But I literally just had to take out a loan to get a tooth filled. How much will this vaccine cost? Because like you said. This virus isn’t done with us. It never will be. How much are the yearly vaccines going to cost Americans?
"I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but am going to post multiple comments saying we shouldn't keep making new vaccines because they would cost a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of US spending."
I am not trying to be antagonistic. I genuinely want to know, and you’re the only person that has responded to me.
Why is it that when I point out that eventually we are going to be paying for these vaccines no one responds anymore?
The cheapest flu vaccine I could find was $40. Flu vaccines have been around for decades. Plus when I asked the pharmacist how much a flu vaccine costs. He said “if you don’t have insurance we can probably get it down to about $40”.
I’m not going to be able to afford 4 $100 corona vaccines for my family.
What? When I said how much it will cost the American people. I meant individually. How much will it cost ME to get the new vaccine? I can’t afford a tooth filling, and if you think corona vaccines will be free forever. You are sorely mistaken.
Why would I be wanting socialized healthcare (see first comment)? Then be concerned about what the government spends on developing a new vaccine.
Good for you bud and so happy that you don’t give a shit anymore! So sorry that you can’t seem to understand that a virus that kills people other than you is a bad thing.
Oh, I think you misunderstood. First off i think everyone should get vaccinated. Like, I would like to get the new vaccine. But how long are these vaccines going to be free in America? After all the flu vaccine isn’t free. I can’t afford one of those. Shingles vaccine isn’t free. I can’t afford that either, and I’ve had shingles. It fucken hurts.
If you even halfway paid attention in grade school science, or realized that a new flu virus is rolled out every year to combat the new strains. You knew this is how the vaccine situation was going to work. If you knew from the beginning that this is how vaccines work. Well, it’s not exactly news is it?
Meanwhile my rent doubled in 3 years. I literally just took out a loan to get a tooth filled. I live everyday in pain from TMJ.
Ok. And?
I don't care about it, so that means we shouldn't focus on it anymore!
I didn’t say that we shouldn’t focus on it. But here’s a question for ya. How much is this new vaccine going to cost Americans? I mean the same people that charge ridiculous amounts of money for insulin aren’t going to give away vaccines right? Is the US government going to pay for these vaccines for everyone? All the vaccines in the world do no good if people can’t afford them.
You tired, but the virus doesn't
If we all sit completely still maybe the virus will just pass over us. We could commemorate that day and turn it into a holiday and call it "Overpass" or something.
Aw honey.