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There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution that works, eh dave?
I feel the fact you decided this was necessary kinda proves my point though.
Not really, I messaged @dave so he could be on top of it if it got 'interesting'.
Now you have got very anti hexbear and 'they' have not been antagonistic in this thread.
No, but they have absolutely flooded the thread. They certainly got antagonistic in the previous thread though, basically calling everyone who disagrees with them racist.
You are the one in that thread getting hun up on a te Reo name when Te Reo is an official language (the only written in Law - English is only a common language as far as I understand), they, and others have called out the developers and you fo a quite an easy Te Reo name.
I have seen issues with 111 having issues with an English street name - Dick st. It took three calls to get EMS to attend because the first two went to (i guess) the same controller who insisted that Dick st was a prank call.
I don't like how they exclusively use memes, and seem to group post, but on the issue of the street name I think you are in the wrong.
English is an official language. All our laws etc. are in English so we didn't need to make a law to make it official like with te reo (and NZ sign language).
But agree with your main point, there's no problem with the name.
Your laws are in Te Reo, they’re translated into English. Your Supreme Court decided that.
That's not even remotely true
Uhhh okay it’s not like that was decided about the document that literally started your country or anything
The treaty of Waitangi is not part of NZ law.
Interesting that I see it listed as being an integral and foundational part of your constitution, then
That doesn't mean it's part of law
At any rate the fact that the te reo version of the treaty is recognised as primary doesn't mean all nz law is written in te reo as you initially claimed
Fair enough, I overshot.
"your constitution"
You mean you're not even a Kiwi, and you're ten comments deep spouting nonsense like this?
Honestly, you're even more pathetic than I thought.
Just have to point out that New Zealand Sign Language is also an official language written in law.
I missed typed as I know that Sign is also.
What I meant was: "Te Reo is an official language (the only written, written in Law - English is only a common language as far as I understand)"
I'll blame the bottle of wine I was 3/4 of the way through at the time ;)
Fair enough!
Do you seriously think that's quite an easy name?
It's eight syllables, but I think most minds would chunk it out as three or four units of short term memory ("papa", "kanga", "horo" or even "horohoro") which isn't too unreasonable to me compared to some more ...western sounding? place names.
(Though I am not the person you were responding to nor do I have experience with Maori. Just sharing my take)
If we want to pronounce it properly we do it "Papa" - "ka" - "nga" - "horo" "horo".
I'd predict people who want to mangle it will probably go for something like "Paper" "kanga" "hoaro" (with a hard g like in kangaroo, argh) and leave the last bit off.
Paraparaumu gets called "Parrer Pram" by people who don't pronounce their reo. Not all of whom are pakeha I might add.
I mean, it's certainly possible to remember, but to describe it as an easy to remember word just seems so elitist.
If literacy standards have sunk so low that that's elitism, these are troubling times indeed.
You don't work in the trades, I take it?
I'm elitist? F me.
It truly is one of the eiser [longer] te reo names that are in our good green [or not so] country.
Seriously? Just as easy as Taupo, for example?
Surely you can't think that in good faith.
Even as a white gen x-er with probable dyslexia I would possibly have issues spelling spelling not living there, but if you lived there I really can't see the problem with papa-kanga-horo-horo (shit, look at that I spelt that correctly first time [yes I looked it to check])
Easier than Worcester
Who said Worcester was an easy name though?
I just heavily doubt you'd kick up the same fuss over a European name
Doubt away, you strange person.
I see. So this outrages you just as much?
https://imgur.com/bgZkVV3
Having to spell that out every time I renew my insurance or whatever would suck, but it is at least shorter.
Okay, you're still missing the point. How about Loughborough?
That would be a pain in the ass, and I wouldn't be happy if someone tried to name the street I lived on that.
Sure buddy. Sure.
Lmao you toadie, listen to yourself
And now the alts show up.
Swing and a miss
I mean, you've had the same hostile attitude right out the gate as the Hexbear crowd, of course people will think you're one of them.
Pretty common for narcissists to perceive the world as a crowd of bullies working against them. I hope you're not a grown man acting like this on here.
You really are a sad person.