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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, "Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND."

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True, and I wish my city would realize it harder, sooner. On the other hand, I just read an article the other day that claims that the collapse of civilization has begun. A lot of societies throughout history perseverated with maladaptive habits after the local environment changed, and thus collapsed. A lot of them didn’t, though, and I hope that we’ll wise up in time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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But yeah, honestly, I'm worried myself that our society is starting to unravel if we don't get our act together. Unmitigated climate catastrophe may well prove to be the greatest disaster in human history, if you count all the wars, famines, genocide it may cause. I sincerely hope it doesn't turn out so dire, but so far humanity is stubbornly refusing to do anywhere near enough to stop it. Whether that's civilization-ending or merely really frickin bad remains to be seen, but it's also worthwhile noting that collapse doesn't always mean post-apocalyptic; for farmers in ancient Rome around its collapse, life probably didn't seem all that different day-to-day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've thought about that, too. How very rural people way back when may not have known or cared what empire they belonged to. I read years ago about a region France that routinely got double taxed because no one was really sure if they were French or German, and it was just easier to pay your taxes to both collectors than fight it. A society like that, yeah, they may not care so much about the empires collapse. But us? Even in the most rural areas of any 'western' country, the difference would likely be huge. No sanitation department, no internet, no electricity. And because, especially in the US, we have never developed a sense of personal responsibility to our communities or any kind of solidarity, we are unlikely to weather that particularly well. There'll be no spontaneous eruption of communal gatherings and a sense of building a better community. They'll be bastards hoarding shit and people shooting each other because there's no one to stop it. :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's wierd. In country where internet was created(on tax money btw) not everyone gets internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no getting our act together. We've already passed the point of no return. Now we can only try to mitigate how bad it could get.

I don't think we will take any serious steps toward that, either... I'm worried we'll pull the Clathrate trigger in my lifetime

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ever read Mother of Storms by John Barnes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A percentage of people will, like they always do. My pessimistic view is that we just need to see how bad it gets before the pendulum starts swinging back the other way