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Telling someone to read Marx to understand modern day socialism is like telling someone to read Newton to understand modern day physics tbh.
I mean yeah, if you want to understand the devolopment of physics you are required to understand the foundations it was built on, this is basic study.
Its like telling someone they should read the bible if they want to be christian, or telling someone they should read the instruction manual if they want to actually know what the terms they are using mean.
Yeah, you should read Marx if you want to understand the historical development of socialist ideas, but if that’s where your reading ends, then your ideas are stuck in the past.
Socialism isn’ta religious dogma that is inflexible and unchanging. It’s an intellectual idea that grows and becomes more refined over time.
They’re saying that your take is so incoherent that you need to develop a foundational understanding of the basics.
Before you can learn calculus, you need to learn arithmetic so you don’t end up saying things like 2 != sqrt(4)
I’ve read Marx, I’ve moved on from Marx. You guys clearly haven’t; or at least, you haven’t moved on from Lenin.
I never stop reading marxist stuff, im fully up to date thanks.
Socialism isn't an intellectual idea though. It's not an idea we put on the world, it's a real movement that abolishes the present state of things.
Have you read lenin, mao, sankara, deng, marx or any sociological text on neo-marxism?
No, who are those people?
just some guys and dudes, I like claudia jones too.
You just said this lol
That’s why it’s funny
Yes, I'm glad you understand why this is a funny avenue to mock you through.
Yeah, you're right. It's also important to read Lenin's works on imperialism to understand modern socialism. It's important to study Mao as well.