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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

why the hell do you need a plastic chip? its useless and redundant. get a username and password from the phone carrier and that's it. just like connecting to an ISP for example. why are people clinging to old technology for no reason.

Besides, phone carrier nowadays are exactly this: ISPs. they provide an IP and a bandwidth.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most carriers don’t support eSim. Mostly just the more expensive ones do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m on an inexpensive MVNO that supports eSim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same. I used to be on ting because it was only $18 a month. No esim support though. I recently switched to tello because now I only have to pay $10/month. Oh and they have esim support. (Also ting's mobile app appears to be no longer available which was a red flag for me that made me feel like maybe they were getting ready to shut down so I jumped ship

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are several companies that provide travel esims. I use knowroaming. Much more convenient than trying to find a shop that sells sim cards after you arrive.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

maybe if people stop clinging to old techonology and use it the companies will be forced to advance as well. maybe stop using fax machines and they will stop producing them!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone should come in here and explain further, but I believe this becomes a big deal when traveling.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

eSIMs are much more comfortable for travel, since you can purchase one online and activate it while still in your home country a few days before your flight, for example.

There, you just got a shitload of options, had the time to comfortably compare plans from your home PC while on home WiFi, and make sure you picked the best one.

Now compare this to: arriving, getting past customs, picking up your luggage from the belt, picking up your rental and oh no fuck I have to buy a SIM from the first scammy desk I can find at the airport or around town.

Thanks, but no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am not going to argue either way on this. I am simply repeating the travel issue that I recall reading about when eSims first hit the scene. My understanding is that your example is just not super accurate for countries that you might not have been before - in other words, how do you know it will work or the network will be any good from 1/2 a world away. Especially in 3rd world countries where support and coverage might be iffy at best. Along with that is some of these networks from 3rd world countries might simply not support eSims at all.

Those are just some of the points that I recall.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because I'm much more likely to lose/forget a username and password and going through the hassle of getting a hold of the carrier, proving who I am, and recovering said info is a bitch. I'd prefer to not go through that over and over. I buy my phone out right with no part of the carrier. They have no need to be a part of me switching phones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also a decent chunk of carriers outside of America only support physical sim cards so in alot of countries this phone would be useless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

There are password managers for that

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Then click “forgot password”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

ISPs also provides hardware.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

very short sited comment