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First they decide to get all their gas exclusively from Russia, which, as it happens, turned out not to be such a great idea. Now they want to sell their biggest port to China.
It seems that Germans just never learn.
That is just a big fat lie.
Russia supplied about half the natural gas in 2021 and from 2022 on it went to zero anyways. Why would you make up such crap that everyone can just Google that it's a lie?
Lets be real, China owns a minor share on one terminal, not the entire fucking harbor like in other EU countries...
Thats one too many.
Yes but setting things into perspective is important. Everything else is just populists shit.
Better than Americans owning it.
If you say that with a straight face, then you have no idea how bad china is.
China did not invade Iraq, bomb half the countries in the Middle East or spend 60 years trying to starve Cuba.
If we wanted to list every invastion, coup or regime change change America did, it would take a very long time to do it.
Anything is better than that evil.
The CCP has killed far more people through outright negligence and stupidity than the US has killed since the CCP became a thing that existed in the world. The CCP is, as we speak, ethnically cleansing one of its ethnic minority groups in reeducation (concentration) camps. The current leadership of the CCP ascribes to a “might makes right” school of thought in the geopolitical arena, much to the serious dismay and concern of its neighbors. The CCP is potentially going to start a war with the rest of the world over Taiwan, which at this point is not feasible to even consider reintegrating.
We can keep going, if you want.
Anything is better than that evil.
potential wars are not as bad as real wars that Americans has waged.
There are millions of refugees in my countries from places that America has bombed: Iraq, Afganistan, Syria, Libya...
You're just too brainwashed to see that your country is a murderous tyrant.
Oh, that’s how we’re playing it? Ok:
The CCP killed somewhere between 15M and 55M in 1959, 1960, and 1961 with absolutely criminal levels of negligence which lead to the “Great Leap Forward”.
Your move.
As an aside: there’s a fuckton of things in America today and its history that are super fucked up and indefensible. I’m not blind to that, and I think part of being a good citizen of a country is looking at its failures in an objective and honest fashion, in the interest of learning from those failures. I do that as a matter of habit, as history is one of my latent passions. You seem to just be mastrubating in front of Chairman Mao propaganda posters.
Chairman Mao has been dead for almost 50 years. That mass murderer George W. Bush is still alive. It's too late to condemn Mao, but it's not too late to condemn Bush.
The horrible things CCP did 50 or 70 years ago is a matter for historians. The murders American thugs are committing today are a topic that affects our lives.
America is a murderous nation.
So you’re conflating leadership with country here - understandable, given how the CCP has gone to great lengths to erase that distinction within Mainland China.
The US has had, at times, some apocalyptically bad leadership, and over the years we’ve had varying flavors of “bad”. But the idea of what the country is supposed to be and what it stands for is distinct from the leadership that holds the reins for any given interval. This is absolutely not the case with China.
Apocalyptically bad leadership does not excuse mass-murder, invasion or coups.
Stay mad hoe 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
We didn't agree. He is elected and we can't do anything about it. Trust me, most of us aren't happy about that decision. We try to get rid of him in the next election. Selling tax payed public stuff to our disadvantage sadly has tradition in Germany (telephone lines, railroad)
Railroad is still 100% Bund owned.
Yeah, but for profit. Since Die Bahn was changed into an AG it is also mismanaged. This really turned out great.
One terminal 35% stake It’s still not great but let’s not blow things out of proportions.
Germany's biggest mistake in the last 10 years was to follow America in starting conflicts with Russia. Maybe they have learned their lesson and do not want to repeat the same mistake with China.
So not selling your stuff is starting a conflict? If this is all it takes I start to understand why russia is so aggressive.