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Hatred often makes you want to hurt people, but people hurt peope in the name of greed more often, and not only with less potential for guilt, but is often the cause of delusional accolades and reassurance both from within oneself and from others.

Hypothetical:

A CEO lays off 10,000 employees that helped that company succeed, solely to increase earnings and not because the company is hurting, not only seriously hurting 9,997 people, but causing 3 to commit suicide.

A bumpkin gets in a fight with someone he hates the melanin of because he's a moron and kills them.

Who did more damage to humanity that day? They're both, I want to say evil but evil is subjective, they're both highly antisocial, knowingly harmful behaviors, yet one correctly sends you to prison for a long time if not forever, while the other, far more premeditated and quite literally calculated act, is literally rewarded and partied about. Jim Kramer gives you a shout out on tv, good fucking times amirite!

Edit: and this felt relevant to post after someone tried to lecture me about equating layoffs to murder.

"Coca-Cola killed trade unionists in Latin America. General Motors built vehicles known to catch fire. Tobacco companies suppressed cancer research. And Boeing knew that its planes were dangerous. Corporations don't care if they kill people — as long as it's profitable."

https://jacobin.com/2020/01/corporations-profit-values-murder-culture-boeing

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But, no, you can’t just create a crime out of laying people off because it saves a company money.

Yes, you absolutely can. That's how every act that's currently illegal became so. We decided it was not beneficial to allow the behavior and put people in jail if they kept doing it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

company can no longer lay people off

company goes out of business

instead of X-N people losing their jobs, everyone loses their jobs

WeDidItPatrick.jpg

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

apples and oranges.

solely to increase earnings and not because the company is hurting

“Coca-Cola killed trade unionists in Latin America. General Motors built vehicles known to catch fire. Tobacco companies suppressed cancer research. And Boeing knew that its planes were dangerous. Corporations don’t care if they kill people — as long as it’s profitable.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As we all know, supporting unionization and literally making layoffs a crime are the exact same thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No they are not.

But I do not think removing the source of livelihood for hundreds of people for no reason other than making yourself richer is no different to preventing employees from negotiating fair wages.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well that's pretty dumb then, because if the business isn't thriving they are going to have 0 employees.

Strong unions recognize this and contribute to the success of the business over all else. That's why Germany has many of the best, strongest unions in the world - they're legislated as part of the company and see total company wellness (including employee safety, compensation, etc) as unified goals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but did you miss "for no reason other than making yourself richer"? I'm mostly focusing on cases where a company is not struggling to stay afloat, but are in good shape.

Also, I don't feel like this is a good faith argument, not from your fault, mind you, so I don't think it is productive to continue this shouting match. I hope you understand my point, even if you disagree with it, but I, hopefully, have a decent grasp of where you are coming from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Find me any CEO who has made any decision other than quitting their job and getting another, solely for the benefit of making themselves richer.

That has never happened.

I don't understand your point because your point necessarily requires company leadership to be mustache-twirling villains and they're just people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Elon musk genuinely believes the dumb shit he does is smart.