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Greta Gerwig's movie based on the world's most iconic fashion doll keeps dancing past one record after another.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It felt odd, marketed as a female movie, It had a female lead, women that talk to other women, but half way through I commented to my partner that this feels like a movie about Ken.

My only take away as a dirty male is I can t wait to see it again for Ken, but when it's streaming.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’ve seen this opinion from a lot of men, about 80% of the top comments on the Reddit mega thread were about how Ken “made the movie”. I’ve talked to a lot women about this, and every one of them has essentially said “of course they think it’s about the man”. It’s a bit frustrating, honestly, to see this opinion everywhere. I do not see how he could be seen as the focus of the movie. I loved Ken of course, but you missed a big point of the movie if your main takeaway is how great Ken was.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Badly worded, my main take away to see it again, I do see past Ken. And like you say, if you're witnessing people saying that Ken made the movie then that's the exact problem I'm conveying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the clarification. I think the reason so many men think the movie is about Ken is due to them ignoring the feminist themes in the movie, rather than a fault of the movie making Ken too much of a focus. He was absolutely hysterical, but the humor felt superficial—the focus was still on how a matriarcal or patriarchal society is severely flawed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree it was a lot of Ken.

It was a female movie, we had the sort of history of progress that barbie either helped bring or at least reflected the change of times. We had our relationship, memories, references, inside jokes, and love of barbie. It is also a VERY feminist movie. I'd argue the best depiction of what feminism is about I've seen. It shows how the patriarchy hurts everyone too, and the answer isn't a matriarchy. It was just done in a way it could easily be ignored if someone wanted to just enjoy the surface level fun. What bothered me about it was the Mattel dicksucking corporate bs I suspect was forced to be included and portrayed a certain way. They did a decent job trying to make it work but if felt obvious and gross to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially the "Haha we had a female CEO once but not anymore, but it's okay because we support feminism as long as you make money!!!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes and then they just bumble around because they HAD to introduce them and then just like... comedic pointless bumble around? Meh. I don't wanna get spoilery with other problems I had with Mattel. I am still super excited to see it again though! Either on streaming or in theaters with someone who hasn't seen it yet.