this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
631 points (80.3% liked)
Memes
45681 readers
550 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Horseshoe theory is bullshit. One side has extremists who burn down cars the other has extremists who burn people. It is not the same.
The third side has people who burn themselves.
🤔 Isn't there a logical fallacy that addresses erroneously comparing two things in such a manner? If not, we badly need to make a new one.
Are you thinking of equivocation? The very first one here: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fallacies/
No no, not that one. I think it's like a genetic fallacy but I am not sure. It's like when dumbasses say fighting evil is the same as being evil.
I'm quite sure it is, because equivocation often occurs by boiling down two disparate concepts to the same vague and simple description, in this case "using violence against those you disagree with". Genetic fallacy is guilt by association.
🤔
Ehh. There are centrists and people from other factions who support violence too, snd extremists who do not. There's a lot of nuance in the situation
Really? The guy who thinks both sides are the same and wants them to kill each other so they'll all shut the fuck up isn't a centrist?
Nonviolence is not a requirement to be a centrist. Believing both the American left and right are the same or very similar, and/or believing in horseshoe theory is all that's required.
That's simply not how centrism works. Centrism is not and has never been about nonviolence. It has been about viewing the two major factions in the U.S. as the same or similar, and honestly trying to view or portray oneself as superior to both. Nonviolence can be used for such purposes but is not required.
I used to be a centrist and know many more than you. I've dealt with this crap for decades. I know more about it than you do. I've rolled with both factions, and there are many centrists who feel the way they do without the nonviolence. Just because you are a centrist and nonviolent doesn't mean all centrists have to be nonviolent to be a centrist... but that self - centered way of thinking on your part shows centrism is largely about feeling superior to others.
The issue is you think centrism means being like you when it is anything but.