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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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The short list of climate actions that will work (archive.ph)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's easy to summarize, difficult to imagine, even more difficult to implement. Some of your steps even require fossil fuels, that's how deep we are in it. The resulting demand for alternatives for heat or fuel will make current deforestation seem like nothing. Any sort of agriculture big or small without some fossil fuel and/or fertilizer? Good luck with that in a good growing season.

I don't have a solution, as what we find ourselves in is a predicament that has none. It's just a matter of how things break, if we choose to be part of that fracturing, or just let it play out as we continue to cling to a teetering structure. Same problem, neither choice is better than the other. I'm guessing as a species we'll do what we always do and take the least amount of change for as long as we can, then we'll react, probably badly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's impossible in the countries that do most of the polluting right now, since nobody is willing to give up anything or admit that radical changes are needed. But maybe with some luck the collapse will happen gradually enough that as things get bad, some effort can be put towards building something new before everything is completely wrecked.