this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2023
135 points (93.0% liked)
Linux
48077 readers
738 users here now
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.
Rules
- Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
- No misinformation
- No NSFW content
- No hate speech, bigotry, etc
Related Communities
Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
You do realize that you're basically saying your anecdotal experience is better than mine right? So you're basically doing the same thing you're accusing me of, thinking that everyone's experience is like yours. All I asked was whether you actually figured out what the root cause was. From your vague response, I can only surmise you didn't do the least amount of debugging and decided to blame Manjaro just because. All the other distros you tested on weren't even Arch-based, so you don't even have a solid understanding of whether it was actually Manjaro or an Arch issue.
Seriously? I am not even using Manjaro anymore as per my post. Just because I am not blindly following the crowd and jumping on hate bandwagons whenever I see one doesn't make me a shill. Calm yourself.
You suggest it us a bandwagon because many don't like Manjaro and multiple people raised issues. You're guilty of using your anecdotal evidence to rule out the anecdotal evidence of many.
I don't know the exact cause of my issue, I want to use my PC to do actual work. I did some research, reverted through time machine andd tried again in a slightly different way to rule out graphics card driver. It still failed. I want reliability and don't want to become an expert sysadmin. I specifically don't use Arch, or Gentoo for this reason. I dont have to be a chef to enjoy food. Manjaro claims to do more testing. The issues I faced on PinePhone did not happen on the arch version, it was specific to Manjaro. Kubuntu just worked and never broke after. Mint had been working for years. Manjaro is the only distro I have faced issues with. Maybe it was Arch, maybe it was Manjaro. It is irrelevant. I don't use either. Manjaro's reputation is well earnt and non of your shilling us going to counteract the catalog of failures that are widely documented and hard to ignore.
This is fine and your prerogative.
And this is the problem I had with your original comment. You don't actually know what the root cause is and yet you're ready to apply blame to Manjaro with absolute certainty. This is why I say you're just jumping on the bandwagon. Many of the other "reports" that you mention are in a similar vein. It all boils down to "well something broke, I don't know what, and therefore I blame Manjaro".
Do you know how many people use Ubuntu and had something break for them? Their forums are littered with these posts as well. I personally have had Ubuntu absolutely shit the bed during system updates, but you don't see me going around declaring Ubuntu is shit and for good reason! I don't actually know what caused it! It could have been something specific in my setup. I know that Ubuntu works well for many other people. Likewise, there are many people, myself included, who've used Manjaro before and it worked fine for them.
All I am saying is don't be so quick to judge. All you have is 2 random breakages that you haven't properly root-caused and what you claim to be a bunch of random hearsay from others, and yet you're ready to throw your anecdotal experience into the ring as complete fact.