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The six-year-old student who shot his teacher in the US earlier this year, boasted about the incident saying "I shot [her] dead", unsealed court documents show.

While being restrained after the shooting at a Virginia school, the boy is said to have admitted "I did it", adding "I got my mom's gun last night".

His teacher, Abigail "Abby" Zwerner - who survived - filed a $40m (£31.4m) lawsuit earlier this year.

The boy has not been charged.

The boy's mother, however, Deja Taylor, has been charged with felony child neglect and misdemeanour recklessly leaving a loaded firearm as to endanger a child.

In Ms Zwerner's lawsuit, filed in April, she accuses school officials of gross negligence for ignoring warning signs and argues the defendants knew the child "had a history of random violence

The documents also mention another incident with the same student while he was in kindergarten. A retired teacher told police he started "choking her to the point she could not breathe".

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oh look another shooting that basic safe storage laws could have prevented, without even restricting firearm ownership, but ammosexuals still resist them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

proper gun ownership turns you gay tho

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The boy's mother, however, Deja Taylor, has been charged with felony child neglect and misdemeanour recklessly leaving a loaded firearm as to endanger a child.

It looks like she violated the storage laws.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, its more like they came up with that as a way to punish someone for this act. As far as im aware, there isnt a law describing how guns need to be sotred to keep them away form kids and if there is, it sure as hell isnt enforced.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you enforce this other than punishing it when something happens? The police can't just go into people's homes to double check that they have their firearms stored safely. People aren't going to report themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why can't they they? That's how it works in most other developed nations?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How would safe storage laws prevent this? They would just result in another charge for the mother. You really think someone who leaves a gun around with a 6 year old with behavioral issues would lock it up just because of a law?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Storage laws are the easiest to abide by, though. My stuff all lives in a safe, which key is on my person, because my dotty wife and ditzy daughter frequently forget to lock the door behind them.

Is an intruder just gonna take the safe and lockboxes? Yep.

Am I gonna report that theft as "lockbox, contained one pistol (SN:xxxxxxxx); loaded magazine, 9 rounds?" You betcha.

As you say, LPL videos are free so a lockbox and safe are like, the least obstructive Imlediments ever. What's the harm in this Pascal's wager?

Edit: bah! Wrong reply bug! This was directed to a comment down thread 👇

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would safe storage laws prevent this? They would just result in another charge for the mother. You really think someone who leaves a gun around with a 6 year old with behavioral issues would lock it up just because of a law?

The implication is that you actually enforce the laws after you implement them, rather than just implementing them as a way to add a charge. For example in my country police will come to inspect my house at least once a year to make sure im storing them properly and if a neighbour complains or something they will also make an unschedules checked.

I get American gun owners would take this basic safety precaution as the deepest violation of a tyranical government and would shoot a cop before they let them inspect their home for safety, but my point is if they did agree to sensible safe storage legislation this wouldnt have happened

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This shit happens literally every day in the US. At this point, it’s like getting worked up about the wind blowing. They’re a lost cause.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ dude.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you not consider the following to be a safe storage law?

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-56.2/

§ 18.2-56.2. Allowing access to firearms by children; penalty. A. It shall be unlawful for any person to recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any child under the age of fourteen. Any person violating the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

B. It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to authorize a child under the age of twelve to use a firearm except when the child is under the supervision of an adult. Any person violating this subsection shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. For purposes of this subsection, "adult" shall mean a parent, guardian, person standing in loco parentis to the child or a person twenty-one years or over who has the permission of the parent, guardian, or person standing in loco parentis to supervise the child in the use of a firearm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well that depends on what "unsecured" really means

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Laws don't force people to use gun safety protocols, but I think the violation of such laws needs to be a felony (no more guns for you).