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Is it (still) worth trying to switch my family and friends from WhatsApp to Signal? (Read all of it, please.) (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This may sound a bit dumb, but eh.

So when that WhatsApp privacy policy change thing happened in early 2021, I tried switching from WhatsApp to Signal and Telegram. Telegram kinda stuck with me since i still get news from there, but Signal... not really because I didn't care about privacy back then. Now, I want to make the switch from WhatsApp to Signal, and I have a few plans on how to do that. But, is it worth it, since most people in Türkiye use Whatsapp and even if I switch my family and friends over to Signal, they'll still use WhatsApp since most people are on there.

So, yeah. Should i try, or is it not worth doing? Let me know, also, thanks in advance!

(Note: Most of my family and friends don't really care about privacy.)

(Note 2: This was also posted in c/[email protected], r/signal and r/privacy subreddits.)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the point if they will keep their Whatsapp on the same devices they will use Signal?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said this in Reddit, I will say it here too.

"Well,

(Note: Most of my family and friends don't really care about privacy.)

So, it's kiiiiinda about my privacy, since I do NOT feel comfortable using a Meta product.

Because most of my family have FB, FB Messenger, IG and/or (well, of course) WA."

+I want to increase their privacy and security as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This does not answer my question.

So you're going to somehow convince them to install SIGNAL. And they will continue to use other data-stealing communicators on the same device. Your data and privacy won't be safe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

communications between sucuk and their family will stay private even if WhatsApp may have access to sucuk's contact details on their phones

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is true. But at least it's still LESS data that Meta et al have which is still better than doing absolutely nothing.

It also helps increase awareness around viable alternatives - many people are resistent to trying new apps because they're believe alternatives will be difficult (or whatever). By getting them to see first hand that the alternatives are just as usable, they my then go on to tell other people as such.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter.

No solution is correct, if the underlying principle is wrong - if you take a sword from a violent man, and give him a wooden fork, he will still jab someone with it.

The principle, the mentality needs to be changed, not communicators, that might as well get hacked next month, or turn out to be snitching on their users since day #1.

The way we talk. The topics we cover in talks. The language, the things we share - this is where the propblem lies, not in the tools we're using.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A violent man with a sword will kill someone, a violent man with a fork might give them a scratch.

Both suck, but one is better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Would still be good if the interest is in having E2E encrypted chats by default and for group chats.