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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The comments on this post are such a joke. The name of the community is literally 'fuck cars' and people are getting bent out of shape because we're posting about our dislike of cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like cars. They're comfortable and convenient.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like trains. They're comfortable and convenient.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I like trains too. Unfortunately they rarely go anywhere I need to go where I live. In Toronto they also sadly win out in the homeless urine category over my car.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I like most trains, but fuck that one I took up to Washington. I was on that thing for 36 hours and my ass started chafing 5 hours in, admitedly I think that train was built when Nixon was president and last updated under when Clinton was president.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you like cars so much you won't mind paying for it instead of forcing the rest of the country to subsidize 50% of your little hobby.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A world where roads and public transit are all operated as for profit ventures without any tax ? Man now you're talking .. I'd love that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can like cars, go ahead. What I don't like is that I'm forced to have one to complete each and every task outside of my house. I am forced to have and use a car for everything. I WANT to take a quick walk to a shop for milk, not take a 15 minute drive to a big box store, a seven minute walk across its ridiculous parking lot, then do it all again in reverse. Why am I forced to have a car each and every day without fail in order to survive?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you really want to you can structure your life in a way where food is close to home.. did that through college. Paid for cabs for groceries .. Walked and used transit or my bike. Was pretty miserable in Canadian winters and not very convienent. Plus pretty expensive.. You can do it. Or just admit you like cars :) as long as most people secretly actually like cars and use them then society will be structured in a way to accommodate that. The world's a big place and in order to have most of the things you need really close isn't really entirely realistic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You paying for cabs to get groceries is not "not needing a car" that's still needing a car to do anything. I've been to enough countries in Europe personally for extended periods that I know it's feasible to have a completely 100% walkable life. WALKABLE. Not "I still need to pay for a cab to get groceries."

It's completely realistic for most of your basic needs to be met within walking distance in the world today. Sure, you may want a car to get to some specialty shop across town or to go to some other place more quickly. But that a choice you can decide to make over public transportation.

My only complaint is that I'm absolutely, 100% FORCED to have a car in order to survive. This is absurd and a uniquely American problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you rented or bought a house close to a grocery store you'd mostly be able to do it. European cities were built when horse and carriage were still the best option. I think if city centres were designed to be car free and have everything organised to be walkable that'd be great for people who want that.. There are certainly a lot of situations where someone needs to have a car .. Here and in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you rented or bought a house close to a grocery store you'd mostly be able to do it.

Very expensive to do. Also due to zoning laws you'd have a hard time living near a grocery store since they're literally not permitted to be next to each other in most places.

Yes, there are a lot of situations where someone would need a car. However, the difference lies in how big "a lot" is. Right now, pretty much everyone needs a car to survive unless they're deep in a city center. This should not be the case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)