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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So lets just pretend other forms of discriminations don't exist ? or what exsctly, is your goal here?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Focussing on those is a distraction, that you can engage in, if it makes you feel better (and maybe you'll reach minor improvements for some discriminated group), but once you realize that capitalism is the problem, you'll realize that solving that problem would also remove all other forms of discrimination that were brought to us by capitalists to divide us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

The reply i replied to you is basicly still valid.

I did reply thinking you Where leninsovaries.-> who turned out to most likely be some kind of troll/infiltrator. So the abelism part doesn't really apply.

nevertheless capitalism is a huge problem, however there where other systems of discrimination and exploitation long before capitalism.

We as people who are presumably somewhere on the radical left or far left should still consider that the destruction of capitalism does not automatically lead to liberation of everyone.

Also marginalized groups gaining rigths and protections isn't a mear distraction.

As someone who is nonbinary and bisexual and also has some other marginalisations that I won't go into, Having a bit more acceptance and not being illegal in my home country, and also having easier acces to community does help a lot.

Now that migth change with rising fascism and conservatism. And the discrimination wont end unless the fundemental structures of our oppressive societies get destroyed.

but that is still better than quite a few decades ago where being like me is completly illegal and religated to the margins. I woud not really have terms to describe myself and I would have a very difficult time finding others.

Did neoliberal capitalism and rainbow capitalism lead to this progress ? Obwiously now, it was radical activist that made things better, and the figth is far from over.

Completly ignoring steps for marginalized groups is partially also dangerous.

Essoecially when it comes from movements that are soupposed to aim for a classless and equal society.

For examply my country Is becoming incrisingly more rascist. It always was racist but the amount of racist rethoric is steadily increasing since the pandemic.

All parties except the far left party have jumped on the bandwagen of talking about illegal and unregulated immigration and equating migrants with criminality. The Established Media plays a huge part in this btw.

Now what should far left groups organization and even political parties do??

should they:

  1. Not Mention Migrants or any other minority at all, purely focusing on class.

  2. Actively jump on the trend be some kind of pseudo leftist party and soley focussing on the white cishet worker, and his white cishet wife who are under threat from the criminal migrant

  3. Show active solidarity with migrants. While focusing on broader subjects that affect most people. Basicly calling out bigotry Actively demanding better and also focus on the big problem at hand which is capitalism.

  4. Be in solidarity and working with other groups and having an intersektional approach.

While also educating people and talking about the problems they have( rent, food, infrastructure, climate catastrophe, etc.)

The answer should obvously be 3. and 4.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

to your last sentence. Yes capitalist use bigotry to divide the working class and distract from the actual solutions to the massive inequality of capitalism.

I agree with that point My other commemt mostly refers to opressive hierarchies being older -for example patriarchy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~No it would not. Yes capitalism must go so do the colonial structures where it originated from. And yes current forms of discrimination interact with capitalism and our current systems and societies. How ever systems of oppression are far older than capitalism and it is at least my goal as of many other leftist mostly anarchists to have a society where hirarchies of opression don't exist.

It is my observation which is not representative obviously, that people who advocate to soley focus on class, who usually ignore the struggles of opressed groups in our society, often hold bigoted views about at least some minorities.

As in your case against people with mental illnesses autism etc.

Back to the previous point.

To just focus on class completly ignores the struggles and the contributions of movemtents that fougth and still figth for the liberation of oppressed groups. like black liberation and queer liberation. just as an example. These things are not distractions. Not only has there been social progress which bettered the lives of people, although that progress has always been a compromise.

In fact your are not going to get a true liberation from capitalism without overcoming colonialism which has also intersections with hetero-cis-allo-endo normative patriarchy, and those are also linket to capitalism. I could list more structures of opression.

Dismanteling capitalism wont solve all problems. It is however an important step towards a liberated world if the systems that follow it are better.~~

sorry this reoly was meant for someine else

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

this reply was meant for leninsovaries