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By TIA GOLDENBERG and SAM MEDNICK
Updated 5:25 AM EDT, May 5, 2025

TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel approved plans on Monday to capture the entire Gaza Strip and remain in the territory for an unspecified amount of time, two Israeli officials said, in a move that if implemented would vastly expand Israel’s operations in the Palestinian territory and likely bring fierce international opposition.

Israeli Cabinet ministers approved the plan in an early morning vote, hours after the Israeli military chief said the army was calling up tens of thousands of reserve soldiers.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Good thing the dems made it easy by putting the interests of a foreign genocidal apartheid state before their voters. [...] repeat the same strategy and lose the next election as well.

Republicans are literally laying the ground work to turn the USA into a fascist dictatorship that is in lock step with Russia and Israel, but alright cool. Good thing we have more concern for a foreign conflict then the survival of our own democracy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have never come across anyone supporting Trump on lemmy. I voted for Kamala but we are in a post election environment. The election is OVER and they betrayed us.

Demanding the dems stop supporting genocide on the grounds that it's the right thing to do and it clearly alienated their voters is not supporting Trump.

Holding the dems accountable for the shit show they orchestrated at the behest of israel is not supporting Trump.

Demanding they start to actually represent us and demanding internal changes in the party is not supporting Trump.

Who are you supporting by defending their stance on genocide so consistently?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Who are you supporting by defending their stance on genocide so consistently?

Dems don't support genocide. Claiming otherwise is outright misinformation FUD targeting Democratic voters to drive support for RUpublicans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Huh, that's really odd conclusion to draw from Democrats literally supporting genocide. Harris couldn't even be bothered to come out against it during the campaign even when they knew their support was a losing issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Again, more Fascist supporting apologia.

The DNC does not support genocide, Trump supports the genocide of Palestine. How dense do you have to be to not see that you are supporting the genocide of Palestine?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

There are multiple meanings of "support." There's an endorsement meaning, which can be explicit or tacit, and there's an aiding meaning. The Democrats may not explicitly endorse it, but the Biden administration certainly did tacitly endorse it by directly aiding it. And most of the party has been tacitly endorsing and aiding it for decades.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As your links show, the dems created a massive vulnerability by supporting genocide. It doesnt say anything about them not supporting it.

The dems have to change their stance. Russia using their support for genocide against them doesnt mean we should support genocide. They kind of solve both problems by publicly condemning Israel and its what voters want as well.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At least you are honest about supporting Russian aligned fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, im honest about the fact that supporting genocide is stupid and supporting it harder because the Russians are using that support to their advantage is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

You dont have a leg to stand on, and your sources dont even counter my point. They seem to actually help my argument.

The democrates supported genocide and are POS for doing it. By defending their position, you support genocide (this part is probably not news for you, Im guessing you're in the "right to defend themselves" looney crowd.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

supporting genocide is stupid

By defending their position,

But yet here you are arguing against supporting the DNC because they "support" genocide, despite the fact that the RNC is fully supporting genocide abroad and laying the ground work to start their own genocide in the states.

Tell me, do you also support a one state solution too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, because THE DNC SUPPORTED GENOCIDE. I don't care about your whataboutism.

The dems need to stop supporting genocide and the apartheid state of Israel because :

  • It is the right thing to do
  • it's alienating their voters
  • their support for it gave the election to Trump

The dems literally got Trump elected with their short sighted support for a foreign genocidal nation.

Tell me your views on Israel bro, tell me how they aren't the bad guys and it isnt really a genocide. I'm guessing thats what you are really trying to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Israel is committing genocide.

The Republicans want to commit genocide, but you can't seem to say that for some reason?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Lmao, I fucking hate the republicans. Trump is literally the anti-christ. And yes, they support the genocide too.

I'm also pissed at the dems for basically trying their hardest to get him elected and see scapegoating voters as helping their losing defunct platform as well as by extent the zionist platform.

I want change and making voters feel bad and only blaming them guarantees we dont get change.