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Germany rebuked Secretary of State Marco Rubio after he slammed the country’s intelligence agency for classifying the far-right political party Alternative for Germany a “proven-right wing extremist organization.”

“We have learnt from our history that right-wing extremism needs to be stopped,” Germany’s foreign office wrote on X, in direct reply to Rubio.

AfD, whose staunch supporters include JD Vance and Elon Musk, was already under surveillance for suspected extremism by Germany’s intelligence services, which on Friday classified the party as a “proven right-wing extremist organization.”

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The process is very dangerous, for real. It's not like Trump where the crime is in the open, numbering in the thousands, and growing.

And it is very much a political crime, but it is still a crime, being against democracy is a crime. But it is much harder to prosecute than all the shit Trump did. And if they get it wrong, AfD will most likely get a boost from it big enough to get into government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, instead let's keep wringing our hands, clearly that works and it's totally not the case that THE LITERAL NEW NAZI PARTY is already the strongest party by current polls.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I get where you are coming from, and I very much agree that wringing our hands is not the good solution. I very much hope that the German government has a better plan to handle this than the plans they had to handle literally anything else in the past 30 years.

I share your frustration, I'm just saying that this is harder and less straightforward than Trump was. It has to be done, and has to be done soon though. But it has to be decisive and final.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No you don't appear to be seeing where I am coming from. We need to start the banning process - a year ago would have been a great time, second best time is now.

Also why are you talking about Trump? That fuck has nothing to do with this topic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm talking about Trump because there is a strong parallelism between all of these cases, where fascists break the law and then cry political persecution when the courts apply the law to them.

Trump was the example of what not to do, Le Pen seems to be the example of what works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

didn’t they try to get them banned a couple of times, and it fell over in court? afaik this determination allows those attempts to retry with more evidence… it’s been an ongoing process; it just takes time

banning a political party should be hard, because it’s something that can very much be abused

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

No, banning AfD has not been tried even once.