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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuckin' what? Is this meme 10 years old or what?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I have Sony xm 3 headphones and I can't game on them because everything is delayed like 100ms

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Bluetooth is a terrible standard for gaming. You'd want something with its own dedicated 2.4ghz dongle.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't believe it at first and thought mine was a defective pair. The delay is atrocious

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because Bluetooth is primarily designed for low power usage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, but as someone pointed out those were $300 at launch. I know they're not meant for gaming and reading about latency issues seems like a 1st world problem to me because my older Bluetooth headset had lower latency.

Come to think of it, I don't even remember which pair they were but it would've been under $100 with some BT dac maybe

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That's not a gaming headphone. A proper gaming headphone have near zero latency, you can even play rhythm games with it. Usually it will come with it's own wireless dongle and doesn't use Bluetooth at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Next time buy headphones with AptX low latency support.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought headphones with aptxLL, only to find out that newer Qualcomm chipsets have depricared it in favor of aptx adaptive. It's not backward compatible and at the time there wasn't a single adaptive set of headphones on the market. I would either have to buy a >4 year old phone or get a new pair of overpriced headphones to use it now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Deprecated doesn't mean it's not supported. But it might be disabled by your phone manufacturer because they decided to cheap out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure would be cool if Windows supported anything but AAC and SBC though...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Windows has full support for AptX since forever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I've seen this isn't true. Search for "Windows AptX LL" and you'll see dozens of ways you might install drivers that add support. The most common advice seems to be to buy a dongle that supports it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Both are supported.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, must be my hardware then. It is getting kinda old...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have xm4 and have absolutely 0 problems with it. I feel like unless you're an actual pro gamer or a sweaty elitist it makes no difference.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I have G533 which are even discontinued from production, they have no real latency.