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Got misgendered and yelled at recently by a trans woman who argued that I'm just a cis person trying to seem special and that I don't understand what it's like to really be misgendered and oppressed. She told me that I don't understand real dysphoria and that I'm just trying to stand out as a "cool dude". Ironically I felt progressively more dysphoric and angry every time she kept calling me a man. It took every last ounce of willpower in me to stop myself from beating her bloody. Now I'm feeling like shit today and probably will continue feeling like shit tomorrow.

Why are some people so fucking terrible.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

cis women don’t like when trans women are included as women because some trans women didn’t grow up as women and thus didn’t experience the same sexism, misogyny, and socialization that victimized them.

I've discussed this exact topic with my (cis woman) partner who struggles with this quite a bit, it's wild because she's very accepting and supportive of trans people, but struggles with feeling like the unique horrors of the Cis Woman Experience™ are sort-of being appropriated by trans women? it's a really weird thing to address, because I see where she's coming from, but I just feel that telling like 1% of women that they can't call themselves "women" without a qualifier is needlessly derisive.

I think enbies are liable to experience more discrimination and hate than binary trans people, esp. once the medical transition reaches a point where the trans person is able to conform to the expected gender norms. Enbies in both social and medical transition are often aiming to permanently occupy that in-between space that makes early transition so difficult for so many trans people

hey, it me! what's extra weird is that I feel almost pressured to fit into feminine gender norms to try to avoid being in the "please discriminate against me" class of people, but at the same time, I just... don't want to be there all the time? like wearing a dress and makeup while cleanshaven is a wonderful time when it's the gender vibe, but other times I just want to wear jeans and a tee and not bother shaving without being seen as a fruity man by 90% of people. honestly, thinking about it, the sheer effort I have to put in to not be read as a man while also not quite being read as a woman is, frankly, exhausting.