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Thinkpads used to be quality machines, but my last two laptops broke after just a year. One was keyboard, other was mouse pad.
Is it really that hard to put quality components in parts that are physically touched a lot?
Im going for some other brand next time but they all kind of suck now it seems.
Frameworks are the only good worthy successor imo.
It's not hard, but the more laptop lasts, the longer it will take before you buy a new one.
My 2017 MacBook pro, the shittiest MacBook version of the 21rst century, functioned well and was my primary computer until a couple months ago.
Good to know!
Currently I run a secondhand Dell Latitude, it was well cared for and is in a great condition, even the battery capacity sits at 94%. Runs Linux like a charm. Couldn't be happier about it and hope it lasts me a while.
Which models?
I'm not that familiar with newer ThinkPads as I only ever used a L540 and a T420, but can't you just replace the trackpad or keyboard if it breaks?
I have a X220 and a T14 Gen 2 (11th gen Intel core) and the quality is night and day. Also they introduced cheaper models like an E series, the L series and those have even worse materials or QC.
That's not the point. A laptop should last more than a year.
Yeah, you're right. A brand new one, anyway.
I probably can, yeah. Its just that it feels like I lose trust in a brand where such things break so easily.
I know its not comparable, but my external keyboard and mouse has worked for probably 6 years now without a single problem. Why is it so hard to put quality components in a laptop. Seems like cost savings. And those machines are really expensive.
Sadly Apple is the only company making good laptop hardware it seems. Just have to deal with a huge price tag and reduced compatibility!
I mean... There's good laptop brands. Stuff like https://shop.mntre.com/ or https://frame.work/
Intriguing... How well does debian work with an arm CPU?
I'm using an arm CPU and it works really well. There's even a lot of Flatpaks that support arm to fill in any gaps. Debian even has a version supporting RISC-V
I got a framework, which is built around quality parts, repairability, and upgradeability. Theoretically it's the last laptop I will ever buy.
I liked the concept but the reviews have not been amazing. I hope you like it, because I would love to have one if its actually good.
No complaints so far! What did the reviews say? I'm using a 16 with the graphics module.