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When I was a kid (way too many years ago) my parents gave up trying to restrict my Internet usage because no matter what they did I could easily get around it. I knew more about networking than they did. Then I grew up to become an IT administrator.
The question is,will you be able to restrict YOUR kids?
See instead of blacklisting websites you whitelist instead
Dad creating a small business class network with DPI at home to find out if the kids do something bad. :p
I don't have any kids yet (I'm 32) but I do have a small business class network. 😂
Don't restrict but rather educate and guide them. I would probably fail but hey: I tried.
Probably not younger generations are usually smarter than the older one.
I dunno... A lot of the newer gens didn't have to tinker with everything to get it to work so they're less familiar with the ins and outs of stuff. Not to say they all are because it's silly to generalize that many people but many of them grew up with this stuff. Just like how I couldn't tell you how a TV works or fix one but I've built all my own pcs. That happened naturally because I had to learn it early on to have a computer. That being said they definitely seem to be developing a unique skill set for navigating the internet and social media as a whole. I've noticed they're a lot less likely to trust a generic Google search or various articles online. I guess when you're raised around bullshit you're gonna end up more critical of it. This is mostly about gen z of course and maybe younger millennials. Gen alpha is feral and weird we should all be worried lmao
This is very true. We had to fix all the shit happens to our systems and stuff. But now, they have perfected by implementing this restrictive environments like mac os, chrome os, and stuff like this (windows is trying to implement same thing these days too). So, their devices don't break. They don't have to learn how to fix that.
Nowadays kids don't even understand basic file structure, lmao.
Gen alpha is weird and feral and fucking great. I hope I see what madness the bring to this world.
If they were really applying critical thinking to bullshit, mainstream media wouldn't be forced to literally put together entire departments dedicated to fighting fake news.
I think you misunderstand the reason they need to fight fake news. It's for the boomers. Kids these days are very media literate and skeptical of everything. It's really all the boomers who are falling for misinformation and spreading it on Facebook.
The fresh college grads getting hired at my work imply this is becoming an inaccurate generalization. Particularly in regards to tech. We may be reaching the brain's natural knowledge saturation point, and with so much knowledge available, there's a natural tendency towards a wide but shallow pool.
Also the fact that unless we have some very notable breakthroughs the tech adults of now grew up with will probably be relatively similar to those kids born now will grow up with.
We saw massive technological growth over the last 70 years especially for computer and to illustrate my point im gonna note when my mother, grandmother, and myself were born and note the standard computers available.
Me(1999) Computers were similar enough to modern ones that there isnt much to note outside of processing power and startup, sure theres clear differences but if you know how to operate windows 98 you can probably figure out windows 10 with ease.
My mother(1979) Congrats you have the apple II computer, some weird texas Instruments computers, and whatever IBM is making. The commadore 64 will be released in three years. Almost all the knowledge is irrelevent for these computers because between the internet and the march of progress not much is gonna be recognizable.
My grandmother (1956) Computers are the size of rooms and their consoles resemble radar equipment more than anything else probably cause it is old radar equipment. Colored television is a luzury item and the average person thinks a computer is someone good at mathmatics.
My mom asked my uncle to restric access.
I researched how to unblock it during my time :)
Was seemingly IP-based and the router probably just created an DHCP reservation for my device. Changing IP to static and done. They should do it via MAC. And even that is useless nowadays.
Edit: Also work in IT now.
Yeah, with MAC randomization being readily available on pretty much any device now it is also pretty useless.
I gave my kids completely open internet access and just chose to talk with them on what they might encounter. If I'd locked their devices, they'd just went online at a friend's place.
Yeah, I don't have any kids yet, but if I did I would do the same.
I didn't restrict my kids Internet access, but I did tell them that even though I'm not tracking everything they're doing online, the ISP, the school, upstream providers, search engines, social medias, advertisers, and pretty much everyone else will be.
And this is why kids should grow up with increasingly restrictive parental control software. It's educational.
You're not wrong. I was so desperate to get online as a kid I was pirating my neighbor's internet on my Nintendo DS with a borrowed copy of the browser, because that was the only hardware I had with wifi access lmao.
Back when I was a kid, I ended up guessing my principal's internet password for our local dial-up. His email was through our local phone company, so his login name was the same.. So I had free internet from 8th grade til I graduated. Eventually, the phone company made it where only one person could be logged in at once, but by then I had the money to buy my own.
My parents weren't home a lot of hours in the afternoon, and I was the oldest, so I had free reign. I kind of miss those days
I still remember the 3 passwords I got over the years. His was "kramer" and the other two were "Ozzie1" and "Chicken1"
lol, same, I'm a programmer now
I'm not reading you CAN'T, but filtering software is FAR better than the shit we got around. If you lock your bootloader there isn't much you're going to be able to do except use other devices available to you.