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Can someone explain for the non-religious folk?
Pope's are Catholic. Christian don't have pope.
Years and years of Christianity and Catholics hating or just tolerating each other. I know first hand. My Dad Catholic, follows the Vatican and the pope word for word... tries to at least. My Mum raised Baptist and now, I have no idea. It's all the same to me at the end of day. My family is a rainbow of all Christian/Catholic depending on the side of family.
Christian is actually a fairly new all encompassing word. Like Muslim there's actually a ton of different "Christians"
I'm not sure where you're getting that information, Christian is not a new word. It's literally biblical. You could make an argument that it's a 1500s word but that's a little spurious considering alternative forms such as Cristien and Cristen appear far earlier.
Edit: Christian, "1520s", etymonline; Cristien, "c1300", Middle English Compendium; Christen, "pre-1150", OED (potentially referencing modern definition of baptising rather than religious follower, paywalled so can't double check that one)
The link you posted literally proves my point. Christian has been used as an encompassing term for followers of Jesus Christ for the last 100 years the terms you posted sound the same but mean two very different things.
I posted three sources and you evidently did not read any of them. The latest of the three sources is the exact same variant as modern use and dated 1500s, which is slightly more than the 100 years ago you're claiming.
When I said it was a biblical term I was being entirely literal. King James translation circa 1610, Acts 11:26:
Christian Science as the name of a religious sect is from 1863. Is the first historical use of the word.The ch- form, regular since c. 1500 in English, was rare before. This is from YOUR source. Lastly, You quoting a religious text as historical is literally showing the lack of critical thinking skills necessary to read said doctrine.
You are very bad at trolling. Try reading the first sentence of the source instead of skipping to a related etymology. Use of a word in a 1610 text is concrete evidence of use of that word existing in 1610, regardless of any other claims that text makes; if it read "Martians ate my baby" that would be concrete evidence of the word "Martians" being used but not of Martians existing.
"Regardless of the evidence I put forth" OK gl with that in your thesis defence