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Okay, let me try and help. You said this:
Now, we’re going to count many examples you used to illustrate your point:
I counted one, and this was it right here:
Using a single example to make a point of comparison is dumb. Because one could just as easily say that I breathe air, and similarly, so do hamsters, therefore- I must be a hamster.
Demonstrably, this is untrue. And it’s a dumb argument to make. And it’s not the argument I made. I simply said that calling upon a similarity shared with Nazis isn’t going to make the point one would probably wish to make.
(And the plural of Nazi is “Nazis.” Don’t be afraid to spell their name correctly. It’s not for the purpose of showing respect to them, it’s showing respect to the person that has to read what you’re saying)
NO IM NOT!
Which is?
Done!
Well now that’s fucking disappointing. I thought for sure there’d be some kind of reward for having to deal with some random’s little White Knight complex. I mean, you barged in here to the defense when you weren’t even called upon! Should I have just conceded right there and fed your horse for you?
Debate bro indeed.
No man there is no white knight complex. Again, with the weird labels.
However, there is a weird fixation with users on this platform unable to engage with a topic without having to categorize and label whoever they are engaging with.
For instance: Someone pointed out an extremely neutral fact and it went straight to "well you're a nazi". It's kinda sad and ultimately I just question what even is the point of discussing anything on this platform when it will always escalate within 1-2 comments to boxing someone into some kind of ad hominem or label the way you did?
Do you just delete the comments you make that get downvoted? It’s bad for lemmy to disrupt discussion by fragmenting conversations because you don’t “win.”
Either own what you say, or don’t say it.
Yea i deleted the comments because they weren't constructive and it seemed you wanted to talk about anything except the main thing I (and others) have highlighted for you so what's the point.
It's an unusual scenario that I've found is very typical of this particular platform and I'm very intrigued by this phenomenon. A really high percentage of conversations here seems very invested in labeling the other rather than addressing the argument presented. It's particularly felt on Lemmy. It's probably trivial to you, but it's so frequent in my experience here that I'm beginning to wonder what about this place drives every conversation into an instant indictment of the other?
For instance, I'm really curious why in this particular case when someone pointed out why downvoting has little to no effect in changing behavioral outcomes your first instinct was to classify that person into the same category as the initial example?
Like, what led you to seek out that indictment in situ right out of the bat? Was it the way they phrased it? Did it remind you of a past story or example?
What aspect of the statement:
"down votes are not compelling"
made you go straight to : "aha! You have commonality with Nazis! "?
What intrigues me, is when people using batshit stupid singular examples like- how ignorant it is to find similarity in two people that correctly use math to illustrate commonality with Nazis, as an argument in defense of someone showing a direct commonality with Nazis-
And then arguing against their own point in another thread.
You really need to keep better track of your arguments. It’ll save you the embarrassment of having to delete your hypocrisy.
So you don't have an answer for why you escalated so fast to name calling. It's just second nature to you. Got it.
I beg that you accept my profuse apologies for making you way those endless hours for my return. I had no idea you fancied me so. And were I to have known, I may’ve not quickened to my slumber so!
/s
Look dude. You really need to let this go. You and your sock puppet have been following me in and out of conversations to the point that I’m not sure which of the three or four in as many communities that I’ve had with you- you’re even talking about.
Just let it go and walk away. Seriously. Learn to accept that while you’re free to offer your opinion, it doesn’t have to mean shit to anyone else but you. There is no entitlement you have to anyone’s time or effort here, just like there is no obligation we have to accept your opinion as truth. This applies to me as well- which is why I’m not bothering to argue to you to change your mind. I don’t care if I’m right. I just started my opinion that is all!
Plain as.
And it seems to me, that others might feel the same, because the ratios show it. Clearly few aside from your little friend seems to really care about your goals to out me as wrong, and even if I were- who cares. It’s the internet.
Just, learn to let go.
Haha what a wall of text but not a single response to the original question. It's like the 6th wall of text from you but at no point do you engage with the topic.
This is the laziest form of trolling. I suppose everyone needs a hobby
Again, I have no clue what question you’re obsessing over. You’ve followed me across several communities now-
refresh me so that I can answer and cull your sad desperation, my man.
Oh and seriously? You’re doing the whole “wall of text” bit?
It’s called EFFORT my man. If I wanted to troll you, I’d harass you about a dumb fucking question across several instances until you felt the need to offer a wall of text to get me to ba-
Ohhhhh! I get it now.
Yeah. Good job kiddo. Thanks for helping me see what you’re up to.
Blocking you now.
I see. This makes sense. I was hoping for some complex mysterious motivation for these types of comments. Moving on I guess. 🙂
You're obsessed with this singular logical example I provided but you refuse to answer my main question. It's odd.
I'm going to ask again: what about someone declaring "down votes don't affect behavioral outcomes" made you go straight to: "wow. You have so much in common with nazis".
I've asked this like three or four times, and each reply you write focuses only on the bad logic about the analogy I provided earlier.
Why won't you answer my main question? Is it because it makes you seem unhinged? I'm not interested in judging you. I'm just curious why? Why was that the first thing that you thought to write? Why won't you answer this question? So far you've only talked about the analogy I gave and it's been like three or four replies. I'm really curious.
Wow. right out of the gate straight to personal insults. Why can't anyone on this damn platform argue an argument straight? Why is every goddamn response so emotionally loaded? Are y'all incapable of having a simple conversation about a topic? Any topic? I feel like this is just Rhoeri's alt. I don't care any more. Y'all go fuck yourself.
None of the context changes anything. Downvotes don't affect behavioral outcomes whether you like it or not. So calling op a nazi has zero impact on the discussion except for shit stirring, which is clearly the goal of Rhoeri. I'm done.
Crazy that you didn't engage with a clearly laid out argument after spending 10 replies arguing that other people aren't "engaging with your argument". Also being autistic isn't an insult.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.
Sure thing, calling someone with an intellectual disability in your asinine preamble sure wasn't meant as an insult. Rhoeri, get a hobby.
NTs don't need the importance of context explained to them.
You still haven't engaged with the argument.
Seems like you're all "emotional arguments" and "insults" now that someone ACTUALLY answered your question and you didn't like the answer. Wonder why no one else wanted to do it.
No amount of context warranted calling OP a nazi for simply stating "downvotes don't effect behavioral outcomes" . Nothing in your asinine insults or wall of text provided any reason whatsoever for calling OP a Nazi for simply making an observation. You can play your psychoanalysis games all day and continute with your insults if that's what you enjoy
I don't see where I called him a Nazi. All I said is that he's contextually aligned with the Nazi position. That's just circumstantial. Unfortunate for him that he didn't realise what he was doing, if it wasn't his intention.
But you keep reacting emotionally and finding excuses not to engage with my argument.... Weird....
I don't if you're Rhoeris alt or not, but this is what they wrote:
To the simple statement:
That's it. I don't know if youre trolling, but if you are, it has to be the saddest thing ive seen all week.
I don't know why you're conflating me with another person. You asked why people downvote without engaging with the argument. No one answered you. That includes Rhoeris. I took pity and gave you a detailed organised answer that was hopefully catered to ND comprehension styles, and you haven't engaged with what I was saying. Since then all I've gotten from you is emotionally disregulated lashing out.
That being said Rhoeris is also discussing circumstantial commonality with Nazis not actually calling the person a Nazi.
If you don't understand (or choose to ignore) the importance of context over content in NT human interactions you'll always be confused about what people downvote/upvote/react to and why.
Yea, im sorry. Agree to disagree.
You must be misreading something. I did not ask why perople downvote without engaging. I never asked that.
No amount of context warranted insinuating someone had commonality with nazis simply for making an observation about human nature on social media. That type of escalation is something I see time and time again on this platform and now im realizing its just bait for drama. I don't care any more. You do you
Bye!