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The number of people who are seemingly ignorant of any of the actual politics of Joseph is alarming. Democratic aligned politics has devolved to the same level of Republican politics in the sense of metrics and language. "Economy good" is an absolutely wild way to summarize Joe's politics and the impact on politics that he had. He was a conservative man. From his earliest days as a politician, he was conservative. He played a not insignificant role in creating the modern political landscape. Including in essentially running interference for Clarence Thomas during his initial candidacy for the Supreme Court (Thomas had dozens of credible allegations of sexual harassment and sexual misconduct). Biden was notoriously pro colonialism throughout the entirety of his political career, including active support of Israel and its colonization of Palestine going back to the 70s. He spent decades campaigning on anti-crime discourse that prioritized higher budgets for police to spend targeting minority communities, a fact he was absolutely aware of.
The political legacy of this man is not "Economy good". It is a lifelong career against workers rights, minority rights and pushing conservative agendas within the democratic party against leftist ones. His term as president did not see any degree of preparation for the rise of fascism. He played a significant role in the failures of the democratic party during the election campaign. Refusing to step aside, proving his own incompetence over and over again, refusing to push a progressive platform, refusing to denounce colonialism and genocide, and ultimately playing into many of the same political talking points of American fascists. Joe Biden is a stain on American history. He spent his last 4 years of political relevancy fighting against workers rights and protecting international genocidal institutions. All the while he made an absolute mockery of the institutions of political power in the united states and helped truly ring the funeral bell of American trust in federal institutions.
Let his failure be a galvanizing lesson about all the failures of American liberalism. Leftism is the only true political opposition to fascism. This election was not lost because democrats went woke. It was lost because they refused to change. It was lost because of their own blatant hypocrisy and refusal to campaign on working class politics and humanitarianism. Liberal conservatism handed the reigns to fascism.
this was a good read. the democratic party isn't as left as it seems to want people to think
They are the party of status quo. Say what you want, but Trump will buck trends. Unfortunately, it's just in all the wrongest possible ways. We needed someone with the combination of confidence and stupidity that Trump has, but stupidity for good.
and a lot of it is also 20 years old, because not everything happened yesterday, it's almost like shit happens in the past or something.
yeah, that's also true lol
Joe Biden has been among our better Republican presidents.
He also voted against a constitutional amendment promoted by Indiana Senator Birch Bayh (D) that would have brought an end to the electoral college -The thing that allowed Trump to win his first administration.
this was during the 90s crime wave? Right?
i have yet to see a single lefty produce a functional model of government. Liberals base their entire ideology off of a functional governmental model. You have an uphill battle in this regard.
No, he campaigned on crime at least as far back as 1972. Throughout the entirety of his political career actually, including through his presidency. He is a conservative nationalist. In the same vein is casually racist and indeed sexist.
You said this in another comment,
To which I say that is not an excuse. People were anti-racist back then too, and people had been calling out police violence against people of color since the 19th century and the white supremacist origins of the modern american militarized police. Also we're talking moreso 60 years of continual support for these institutions, not merely 20 years ago.
Yes, and liberalism has historically resisted fascist takeovers so well.
Neoliberalism prioritizes the mass hoarding of wealth of the capitalist ruling class above everything else. Neoliberalism has been the dominant ideology of western electoral democracy since the time of Ronald Reagan. This is especially true of America and Great Britain. Neoliberalism does not create a functional government. It creates continuously worsening economic inequalities and devotes all its resources to preventing workers from achieving class consciousness and resisting their increasing oppression from the ruling class. Fascists are political allies with neoliberals. They have the same aims in preventing the spread of workers rights and maintaining class hierarchies.
But the mere fact that you have phrased it as a "functional model of government" is absolutely indicative of your own ignorance as to what workers rights even are and what leftism is. There are many extent leftist nations today. Social Democracy is a leftist ideology, and I find it pretty unlikely that you view the Social Democracies of Scandinavia in a negative light.
it's not an excuse, depending on what it was as well as the fact that things can change, someone may have had a negative view at a certain point, but that can change. Unless of course doing a single bad action is always constituted as a negative thing, which doesn't seem beneficial for society to me.
fascist governments are opportunistic by design, and liberal democracies don't necessarily have native defenses against them, it's one of the biggest challenges in a democracy.
if you operate on your definition of neoliberalism sure, but i'm not a neoliberal. The irony could be that these problems are inherent to any capitalist society, arguably any society ever, because inflation is a bitch. The only trivial way to work against it is population increase, in which the US has stagnated heavily.
yeah, and a lot of the existing left leaning governments are based on liberalism, even china to some degree has a significant amount of liberalism. It's just that they're mostly authoritarian. You can implement leftist ideologies in a liberal government. It's not hard or even impossible. Most of these places are already using some form of liberal government, that or authoritarian, which is less popular.
Cuba, Vietnam, China, Venezuela, the USSR. These are some examples of a lefty functional model of government.
but your gonna say "those governments did bad things"
And I'm gonna say "not as many bad things as the capitalist US of A"
the USSR was really only successful during it's period of industrialization, past that they didn't advance much and really only coasted on oil until that started to crash and basically killed them. Stalin also had some, interesting ideas of leadership.
China is an authoritarian state, has been for a long time, mao was, arguably one of the worst leaders ever. Created a massive famine that killed millions just so he could make a single nuclear bomb.
I'm not particularly familiar with the rest, so i can't really comment. I guess you could argue that the US has done bad things, but so has basically every super power. It's not really anything new. The primary thing is that the US still exists, china also does, but they're also having domestic issues as well.
The argument is whether "lefties" have a functional model of government and they objectively do, contrary to your claim.
As for superpowers all doing bad things, I'm arguing specifically that the US does and has done significantly MORE bad things than other big countries like China or the USSR.
also I listed 5 countries and 4 of them still exist. You skipped over 3 of them because you realized how weak your argument was