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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (27 children)

Monetarization and politics aside, he got some valid points surrounding usability, ease of use and content.

The majority of the fediverse project's fail at onboarding user with simplicity. Modern third party clients (mastodon, pixelfeld, lemmy aswell) do that better, even par excellence. But if we keep referring people to websites with server lists, we'll lose them at that point already.

Federation and lengthy explanations (wall of texts) and tutorials (sorry @[email protected]) are no selling-point for everybody. It caters the nerd in us, but average joe is not a nerd but a simple user with little interest for these details. You could better refer them to an App that works without account and say: hit the explore button to see communities/contents/hashtags (what ever drives the particular network). In my opinion the old principle KISS (keep it stupid simple) is what needs to be followed, so we cann pull people in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

YES, indeed @Senor Mono You are right. That's what's making a good app... good :-) A simple stupid Graphic User Interface. The fact that we are here on Lemmy means (most likely) that we are some kind of "nerds", because Average Joe will not come here, unless he/she can use an app without hassle and is able to discover the Lemmy communities with even 10 brain cells (or less). I know, I'm making a parody of it, but in fact that's exactely why apps like Insta, FB, etc are so popular. To end with a "free version" of Trump's words... even the uneducated must be able to use it without tariff barriers, LOL. Conclusion to be plain and simple: In my opinion (feel free to disagree)...We need to rethink the GUI of Lemmy and everything will be fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Are you ever used Voyager (https://vger.app/ https://vger.app/settings/install) ? Seems quite easy to use, there is even a tool to discover similar communities to your Reddit subscriptions when you first start the app.

I regularly see people saying they just use Voyager, they don't even know what instance they are using.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I have Voyager myself (little mouse icon) and I'm using it, but still I find it quite confusing for non-tech people. I try to explain. I'm a High School teacher in graphic design and crossmedia. I work mostly with teenagers between 14-18yo. They can work very well with the software, but don't try to explain the technology behind it. They don't wanna know or they don't care, as long as the software works and the program does what they want it to do. I also spend years educating adults to work with new technology. When I look at the Voyager interface, I see: Home, All, Local. I see lemmy.wtf; feddit.uk; feddit.org; lemmy.world, etc... Maybe people think that I'm just crazy and/or overreacting, but I can guarantee you that alot of people don't understand all the tech things behind it. Only 0.1% of the users of FB, Insta, TikTok, etc... have a clue (or are interested) in the tech behind the apps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Home, All, Local. I see lemmy.wtf; feddit.uk; feddit.org; lemmy.world, etc…

What is confusing about Home? The description says "Posts from subscriptions"

I see lemmy.wtf; feddit.uk; feddit.org; lemmy.world, etc…

You mean thet community names have the @instance at the end? It is more confusing than an email address that is [email protected]?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep. To be clear... for me that's OK, bc I understand it, but I showed it to my wife and daughter and they were thinking... "that looks complicated". So... if we would be able to mask the @xxxxx things, it would look more "simple" and clean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But then it would look even more confusing. The picture above shows [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected] . Those are three different communities, not showing it would make it more confusing.

Do people think that [email protected] and [email protected] are the same email addresses?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

OK... whatever. I rest my case and I move on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I see where the confusion can come from, but there is really no way around it unfortunately.

I keep bringing the email example because that has been known by pretty much everyone for decades that the complete email address is name@emailprovider

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