Fediverse vs Disinformation
Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.
Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.
What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.
By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.
Community rules
Same as instance rules, plus:
- No disinformation
- Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation
Related websites
- EU vs Disinfo
- FactCheck.org
- PolitiFact
- Snopes
- Media Bias / Fact Check
- PEN America
- Media Matters
- FAIR
Matrix chat links
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Great stuff. I'll construct my reply in the form of some questions.
How many times did I attempt to restate back to you what I understood your argument to be ("I get what you're saying")? Was my summary of your argument pretty much in agreement with what you were trying to say?
To me, it sounds like we're saying the same thing with different terminology, as you said. And, I'm acknowledging that it's an issue of terminology and definitions, and then proceeding from there to address the underlying issue as well. Right? And you're yelling at me that I'm speaking in bad faith just because I like to use more accurate definitions, and call out someone who is using the formerly-mainstream wait wait I'm getting ahead of myself.
How has mainstream economic thought changed since the 1980s? Is it still considered an "economic boom" when inflation is low and unemployment is high? In mainstream economic thought?
Did I address how these terms being defined in the specific way that they are can lead to harmful outcomes, and explicitly why I didn't use the (formerly-mainstream) definitions for them? Where and how?
(As a hint to help you with answering this question, imagine that someone's going on Lemmy and describing pro-Palestinian protestors as "pro-Hamas" and describing what Israel is doing in Gaza as "counterterrorism." Would you proceed to use that mainstream terminology, and then get upset if someone wanted to use some different terminology because it wasn't mainstream?)
Oh, also, since you're saying that Reagan produced an economic boom by the traditional metric of unemployment, what was the average unemployment level during the 1980s? How does it compare with the unemployment level coming out of Covid that was considered an economic apocalypse at the time? Higher or lower?
Again, this is all just missing the forest for the trees. You've gotten so caught up in sophistry that you can't begin to comprehend why you're failing to express your ideas, and why your statements come off as completely detached from reality.
I'm not going to bother completing the coursework you so desparately want to assign me. I have better things to do with my time. If you don't get it by now, I'm not the person to get you there.
Great stuff. You have it backwards. I read what you wrote, asked some questions to clarify and explicitly acknowledged some of the things you lectured me about (the main issue being a difference of definitions, and then going beyond that to address the substance as well, since I also think you and The Guardian are wrong on the substance whatever definitions you choose to use). We have some differences in terms of the way we see it, which generally is fine, but your message managed to miss literally about 90% of what I said.
But sure, if you just wanted to drop a lecture-bomb and flee, mission accomplished. Have a good day.