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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm not mad at translation no longer being a viable career choice. I'm mad at capitalism making it so.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe I'm not super up to date on AI stuff, but I worked as a translator for a year, and AI (they used ChatGPT and DeepL) still made a bunch of mistakes that you'll immediately notice when you speak the language. It feels like their training input had a bunch of older, Google-translated articles in them that were just bad. Maybe an AI trained specifically for translation with curated learning material and a "teacher" who corrects mistakes can get closer to replacing human translators, but it'd still miss the cultural context of certain words and phrases that are in a translator's passive vocabulary, at least in less widely spread languages.

That being said, it's definitely harder to make a career out of translating because companies who don't know any better just use AI instead. As long as they get their point across (and make money), they don't care about the finer details.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sure, a skilled human is still better at the job. But you don't always need to capture every nuance. And AI does it at the fraction of the cost.

I see this with lots of German product descriptions on big store fronts like Amazon. They often seem entirely machine translated. It's not great, but "good enough" and serviceable.

Machine translation also increasingly shifts the process from the sender of the message to the recipient. It used to be that the web page of a Vietnamese company was inaccessible if you didn't speak Vietnamese or they specifically had an English version. Nowadays a visitor can choose to get the entire site translated automatically (by the browser, for instance). Is it as good as the translation by an expert? Of course not. But it costs the company nothing at all and the visitor a negligible amount. And it works for a plethora of languages.

That's another (invisible) way that the world needs less and less translators. I wrote this post in English but for all I know someone could be reading it in French or Bengali. No further input required from my side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's true, and especially smaller businesses often can't afford translation services. If a machine translation can increase their sales, I won't blame them for using it. I'm just a language nerd who knows nothing about running a business (and I'm not even an actual translator, I just happened to speak the right language at the right time).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

CAT-tools such as Trados killed the market. AI is just the natural conseguence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I worked with a translator yesterday. She teaches courses, but she said she does translation because the money is good. I've worked with her for a while at this point, as well as dozens of other translators, on nearly a daily basis. They're very much still in demand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We clearly operate in two different job markets, I got paid €9/page (pre taxes) for specialized automotive texts in the 2010s. Not to mention the other violations of the labor laws of my country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And this is perhaps me using the wrong term (translator v. interpreter), as I'm talking about speaking and not writing. I can never remember which is which, if there is a distinction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Interpreters tend to get paid more, especially in business settings

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ye why make money by learning languages.

???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You missed the point by a mile. Translation agencies pocket most of the money and pay peanuts