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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Yeah, but what if they're not loaded with methylcellulose, or what if we do eventually come close to the real meats or what if this is a gateway product that could convert carnists?

[–] madame_gaymes -1 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Nope. Give me real plants, unprocessed. Just because a heavily processed compound that happens to be considered vegan might taste like meat has absolutely no bearing on whether or not someone is going to stop eating meat.

It's kinda like a heroin addict. They're not gonna stop just because you took their needle away or gave them a different drug. They have to want to stop on their own, otherwise anything you try is moot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In your heroin example, when they do decide to break the addiction, giving them a different drug (Methadone) is exactly what you do.

[–] madame_gaymes 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fair point, although the addicts are not actually interested or want to take the methadone as a replacement and is mainly for uncontrollable withdrawal symptoms.

It's a larger difference gap than plant meat vs animal meat IMO. In other words, not taking methadone could be a life or death difference (or at least the difference between relapse and not).

In the meat debate, you could most definitely get a very close texture/taste without the fake meats if you use the right plants and spices. You don't need the fake meats in order to replicate and satiate that meat-taste desire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think the question should be whether or not it's needed, but rather whether it'll make things easier and encourage more people to make the switch.

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