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In the upheaval of President Donald Trump’s blanket tariffs, China is seeking common cause with jilted partners of the United States as it tries to extend its influence and take center stage in a new trade order — rebuilt without Washington.

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[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Care to explain? I have a difficult time imagining Chinese military actions in Africa.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never said military actions. China has been trying to establish economic hegemony in Africa for a while via giant loans for infrastructure projects that the nations in question could never possibly repay. Of course, the terms of the loan establish that if the nation defaults, China immediately gains control over all assets built with the money.

https://www.bu.edu/gdp/2023/09/18/a-new-state-of-lending-chinese-loans-to-africa/ This has some fun charts about the phenomenon.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Economic coercion requires the threat of military force. When I hear the phrase "boot on the neck" I'm imagining a soldier's boot.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh shit, I forgot that China doesn't have a military.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe you forgot that they don't send it all over the world, unlike certain other countries.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

shrug The US uses their military to establish economic hegemony, China uses economics to establish economic hegemony. The result is the same. Nice goalposts you got there, by the way.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The military is used to establish and maintain economic supremacy. See any time a country moves to nationalize US "interests". Without the threat of military force (direct or proxy), the supremacy can't be maintained. Maybe China will behave the same way at some point, but at this point it's little more than projection to suggest so. Shrug all you want.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're stuck in the 20th century, my friend. Every nation with nuclear weapons no longer has to actually deploy anyone. The threat alone is enough to make the point. You're never going to listen, but I hope one day you figure it out.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Nukes are almost solely a deterrent. That is, nobody invades a nuclear power. Absolutely nobody is going to nuke a country because they nationalized a port or something. You can't seriously think otherwise.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A river died

Just one example of their bad acting. No worse really than the western world has done, but certainly no better

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah that is terrible. It does seem like a common occurrence though when it comes to industrial mining, no matter who runs the operation.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which was the whole point of the thread: it doesn't matter by which power you get exploited, China doesn't give a fuck about other countries either and they'll happily fuck up other countries' environments.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think that this is point of the thread. China isn't looking to replace the US as the global hegemon. Australian mining companies also create ecological disasters abroad, but nobody confuses this with Aussie world domination.

[–] Slayan@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago

Let's talk about textile then!

https://link.springer.com/article/10.2991/jat.k.201126.001

This study uses Comtrade trade data covering 1990–2017, 14 textile subsectors, and 53 African countries with their main trade partners to evaluate Chinese trade impacts on African textile exports over three subperiods at the sector level. It finds that, although textile imports from China had a significant positive impact during the first period, this effect disappeared in the second period. From 2009 to 2017, the impact became significantly negative.

Nevermind that, let's talk about nortel and huawei!

https://nationalpost.com/news/exclusive-did-huawei-bring-down-nortel-corporate-espionage-theft-and-the-parallel-rise-and-fall-of-two-telecom-giants

Which is the perfect moment to talk about...

https://electrek.co/2025/03/19/chinese-authorities-delay-approval-byd-ev-plant-mexico-fears-tech-leaking-us/

Why would chinese ever be afraid of other people copying them? Unless they know what might happen because they... did it?

We can also talk about tibet, sri lanka, australia, new zealand, hong kong, taiwan, maynmar, russian sanction's... the list is quite long.