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Here are some great open-source alternatives to IOS and Android.

European:

  1. Ubuntu Touch Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
  2. Postmarket OS Europe ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ
  3. Sailfish OS Finland ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ
  4. Manjaro Arm Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
  5. /e/ OS France ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท

Non-european:

  1. Graphene OS Canada ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
  2. WebOS South Korea ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ท

Come join us at [email protected] to discuss building up the alternatives.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The majority of people don't need so much security, for example I don't use SELinux even on desktop.

If you can, get a Pixel and install Graphene on it. If not, degoogle your device as best as you can, use a vpn, a password manager and a private email provider.

I'm sorry but I won't give Google more money, I think they have enough billions of dollars already.

I prefer to support business projects and developers who are for open source and the independence from the Big Tech

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Buy second-hand then. You get a cheaper phone and you don't give google a single cent. Win-Win.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why ? If I can give the same money to Murena, Iodรฉ or Fairphone ?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Fairphone is great until you realize that the implementation is just bad, especially as far as security is concerned. They donโ€™t even use a current SoC and promise updates beyond Qualcommโ€™s end of life date which is a major red flag.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

My answer was more oriented towards not giving google any money but I agree with you on supporting the "good guys" instead of just not supporting the bad guys.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The majority of people don't need so much security, for example I don't use SELinux even on desktop.

Privacy goes hand in hand with security. If you don't have strong security then you can't say that you have privacy. Governments and hackers will exploit your oversight to breach your device, rendering your distancing from Big Tech pointless.

I'm sorry but I won't give Google more money, I think they have enough billions of dollars already.

I understand and I feel the same way. It's ironic that in order to obtain the highest level of security and privacy you have to first degoogle and then go back to Google, but life is funny that way. If you are adamant about it, then I suggest you buy a refurbished Pixel.

I prefer to support business projects and developers who are for open source and the independence from the Big Tech

And I encourage you to do so! More than 90% of my apps on my mobile devices now come from either European devs or FOSS projects. Similar situation on my laptop as well that now runs Linux instead of ChromeOS.

However, I strongly urge you not to compromise your online security and privacy. Choosing a weak Android ROM as your OS is one way you can do that and it can have more negative effects on your life than just staying with your default Android. If you really feel the need to ditch Android immediately, then go for Calyx if you can, but try to switch to Graphene when you can. I also can't immediately switch, but I will probably choose Graphene when I'll be able to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I agree with you fully except I wouldnโ€™t recommend Calyx. I donโ€™t think itโ€™s worth installing over stock tbh and way closer to LineageOS than Graphene in terms of security. The best alternative to Graphene was DivestOS, well at least until a few months ago when it was discontinued.