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    Linux is too hard (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
    submitted 4 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    The indoctrination of windows is extreme. Windows is just as hard as linux, harder even with all the layers of obscurity.

    And yet... linux is hard, and users decry RTFM as "not growing the userbase"

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    It’s okay to have a preference. In my. 20+ years with Linux, I’ve coded with and for it, did low level embedded development with it, used it at home for school and entertainment, used for amateur photography, even managed a small server for a startup.

    I still would rather use a GUI, because I have not specialized in most of the tasks. It’s less powerful, but it’s just more intuitive. It’s less portable between DEs, but it’s easier. And if your only doing that once in a blue moon, it’s more than enough.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

    It's absolutely fine to prefer a GUI. At a professional level it is not fine to not understand what is happening beneath the hood.

    Full stop.

    If you don't know how to use TCP dump, I don't want you using wireshark on my dime.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    I don’t agree with the full stop. Eliminating nuance is rarely good. Most tasks an IT professional will execute will be done several times a month, so memorizing the tar command options might be useful if that’s something they do all the time. But demanding that a person is proficient with the CLI as a way to prove familiarity with how things work under the hood is just fallacious.

    I coded in vim and we built our own makefiles to deploy our code into our proprietary microcontroller. We also used JTAG to connect gdb with the microcontroller, and not even the guy that coded the JTAG interface would be able to write JTAG commands by hand.

    [–] [email protected] -4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

    I disagree entirely.

    Abstraction away from what is happening never adds value in the long run.

    Full stop.

    Vibe coders be damned.

    [–] murtaza64 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    So you write out all your commands as machine code I assume? wait no, obviously you set the transistor state manually with an electron gun?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    You need people who can read and debug machine code and dig through hex and binary in cybersecurity.

    I use ghidra and IDA pro literally every week. And if you don't know how to use hexdump, you shouldnt be using those tools in the job.

    Binary exploitation is common.

    So no, but you literally should be able to read machine code, and parse hex/binary in my field.

    100%.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

    There's no relationship between UI and vibe coding.

    Full stop

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I always use GIMP from the command line, it's just faster.