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After seeing how Hamas is torturing and executing Palestinians who protest against them, while Israel is bad they may as well share responsibility for this most recent conflict.
Damn the IDF is executing Palestinians who protest against them?
Oh wait they did that in 2017 in broad daylight.
If only there was any evidence for Hamas doing it. The 4k projector must be on again.
Yes, yes, idk how many cam phones are in Gaza these days but imagine far fewer than before.
Don’t forget this latest conflict started because Hamas raided an Israeli concert for hostages and were always throwing so many missiles at Israel, Israel invented and built the most advanced missile defense system in the world.
Here’s how I see it, Jews shouldn’t have been given Israel after WW2 because it was already settled but it happened. When the Jews won the wars to hold Israel, the Palestinians never accepted defeat and because of it, never made peace. Because they never made peace and have lived for vengeance for decades, they are now doomed. The smart ones left, and will likely be all that is left of Palestine when Israel is done.
Is this just? No, and what really doesn’t help is both people think god is on their side when it seems to me, god isn’t with either of them.
No this conflict started because Israel violated a ceasefire on March 18 and massacared more than 200 Palestinian children in terror bombings.
There was a ceasefire on March 18. There was no ceasefire on October 7.
I consider the current conflict having started in October 2022 because a lot of these ceasefires feel more like a pause in a war not the end of a war. Wars end with leaders dead or lasting agreements.
No that is not how it works.
Hamas and Israel accepted a ceasefre leading to a lasting peace agreement. Then Israel violated it.
The current genocide in Gaza started on 18 March.
My bad, I thought it was temporary not lasting.
That said I stand by my doubts that this will end without total annihilation on either side. Israel can’t forgive Hamas or Hamas Israel without either side literally changing theirs beliefs and values which ain’t happening.
It’s like October made Israel snap and escalate their mindset to, ‘this isn’t over until they are, no more peace only war’ which is where Palestine has been since the 40s.
Hamas refused temporary ceasefires multiple times in 2024. The only reason Hamas agreed to this one was the promise of a lasting ceasefire.
Which also contradicts your second argument, Hamas is actively working to reach a peaceful solution. Israel is refusing every attempt and violating ceasefire agreements.
This is not a both sides issue. Only one side is the problem.
I’m sorry but I’ve heard Jews and Palestinians outside of Israel complain about Hamas specifically for a very long time and I can’t believe they genuinely want peace because they still have hostages, considering Israel said this conflict will end when the hostages are released many times now and offered to make Palestine a sovereign state seven times over in the past for Hamas to reject it.
Israel is angry at Hamas like they never have been before and it seems to me Hamas only wants peace now because they’re losing and are afraid.
Hamas took captives because Israel has 10.000 Palestinian hostages.
Why would Hamas release their captives if Israel does not do the same? Your argument makes no sense. Especially knowing Israel will starve and kill all Palestinians if Hamas has no leverage.
Hamas is very clearly doing everything to achieve peace. Israel is the agressor.
If you’re talking about the base population of Palestine being held being held captive, maybe Hamas should’ve accepted sovereignty and a two state when it was on the table of using humanitarian funds to build a tunnel network and military headquarters under schools and hospitals they can launch missiles at Israel from.
What Israel is doing is cruel and they are going to reap this karma for decades if not centuries to come but because of the nature of war it is more justifiable to completely annihilate and enemy than to leave them standing given such history, because this enemy does not accept peace, wants global jihad, has equal capacity for cruelty, and is just as zealous if not more than they are sometimes.
According to Sun Tzu, if it gets down to this, when you cannot win against this foe through diplomacy, if you do not crush the enemy entirely they will simply regroup and try again. He learned that during a time in China where kingdoms were being established and genocide wasn’t considered a war crime but a punishment for losing a war without accepting defeat. This what Israel is facing. You could say the times are different but in this way, war never changes.
This war reveals the harshest truths about humanity. If you think peace is achievable, it’s not anymore without finishing the war because of how clear it is to Israel and Palestine right now that they would rather die or kill than live with each other in anxiety and fear.
When was this two state offer you speak of? The rest of your comment is also nonsense so address this first.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution
I said offer to Hamas not random Wikipedia page.
You want to know the history, read.
Quote it if you know it. Clearly you do not.