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No, those are eco fascist talking points. Eco fascism is still fascism. Humanity isn't a virus, and this system isn't normal or "in our nature" or similar drivel. This is the result of capitalism and overconsumption driven by the 1% inundating us with an incessant stream of propaganda (ads) that are explicitly designed to psychologically manipulate us. America is one of the biggest offenders for this, but other countries do it as well.
We don't need to all have cars, the latest clothes/tech, eat meat for every meal, have as many kids as possible, live in spread out suburban hellscapes with large yards and oversized houses, etc. We are capable of turning things around and establishing that equilibrium with our environment where we can thrive alongside nature. We're a long way off from it, but more people are seeing the cracks in the system and starting to realize we need major changes.
You can talk all day about what we "don't need" but we're sleep walking into oblivion and even several nation states being visited by 3 ghosts in the night won't get the world to stop. And once we live in hell and are dying in swaths to drought, hunger, and a new scale of weather events, there's nothing to be done.
You say we're capable of turning things around, I say we've proven in the short time in our history that we've been capable of altering our habitat against us that we've proven again and again and again and again and again and again that humans will choose the short term gain of what's in it for MEEEEE today over what's in it for the species tomorrow every time in everything but empty feel good rhetoric while our actions go the other way.
Live in hope if you need a paci, but hope in this case has as much basis in reality as appealing to the virtue of the free market. False hope is a terrible thing.
Ok doomer. I love how convenient the "It's too late! We're already fucked and we'll never change!" narrative is for just sitting back and doing nothing to make things better. I understand it's hard, so live checked out and in a spiral of fear and anger at humanity if you want while those of us who give a shit try to fight back and make changes.
Humans aren't a monolith, and putting yourself over anyone else isn't a trait inherent to humanity. Plenty of cultures value the group over the individual, just not America, and America is paying for it as it sets itself on fire.
The Earth's climate is a monolith, one big system we are all subject to, and this is a pass fail test for the species. Feel free to tell the CAT 6 hurricanes about your nation's carbon footprint if you think it will help.
I'm not reveling in the doom, I'm living life, aware the outcome for this species is bleak. I don't respect self-delusion.
This species has been at the brink of what it thought was surely economic, ecological, and societal collapse a bunch of times in its existence.
Maybe we’ll get past this one, or maybe Malthus will have turned out to be right.