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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Something I have been pondering is why when going after Bitcoin from crimes (ransom or stolen) they don't just declare the individual "coins" stemming from illegal proceedings and that when they show up the "coins" will be confiscated and the holders investigated for money laundering. They have a serial number of sorts, right?

It should decrease the trade value of the "coins", might even have the added benefit of scaring people of from the scam currencies. Ay, there might be the rub, for in this modern world of ours suppressing financial "innovations" is treated as worse than scams.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bitcoins aren't really discrete individual units like that. Imagine you send me 0.1 bitcoin and my mom sends me 0.1 bitcoin and I then send 0.1 bitcoin to Alice (ignore transaction fees and such). It's not really a meaningful question whether the sum Alice received was the fraction of a "coin" I received from you, from my mom or some specific mixture of both. The blockchain just records increases and decreases of a wallet's balance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It’s not really a meaningful question whether the sum Alice received was the fraction of a “coin” I received from you

Ish. If you received a million CSAM’n’heroin bucks, and you give 10 bucks to Alice, there’s a transaction history that now links Alice’s wallet to CSAM’n’heroin which can indeed be a problem for Alice, because cautious exchanges might now freeze her assets until she can offer some proof that she’s not doing anything bad.

There’s a bitcoin wallet attack that uses this trick that was mentioned recently, maybe here, maybe on web3igjg. You can argue the bitcoins aren’t the same, but in practise no-one cares.


eta: this is apparently called a “dust attack” and I first heard about it here: https://awful.systems/post/3463061

Merely interacting with a sanctioned wallet is enough to get or treated with suspicion, let alone receiving funds. Pecunia certainly olets these days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

There’s a bitcoin wallet attack that uses this trick that was mentioned recently, maybe here

It was here, but also it is an older trick, it just isnt crippling the ecosystem as some exchanges simply dont care. It prob fucks up peoples lives quite badly however.

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