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So many Euro simps on Lemmy. It's like a circle jerk for Europe on here for some reason. Which is kinda proving your own point around the growing fascism (Nationalism) in Europe. This time it seems to be Fascism fueled by a "European" identity alongside a "German or Italian" identity. Though state nationalism is growing it seems to be growing along with EU nationalism.
It's very much fueled by anti immigrant (primarily anti Arab) sentiment. The most obvious of which is Germany. A country that has a national identity built around guilt for the Holocaust but at the same time pretending that they have some unobtainable (by others) perspective on Antisemitism. Which ironically is fueling modern day Antisemitism against Arabs in Germany.
Germany is literally repeating it's antisemitic past by blindly supporting Israel and blaming Arab immigrants for all its problems. Literally supporting a Jewish Supremacists Ethnostate that models much of Nazi Germany in it's oppression of Palestine.
Germany is just an example. But a lot of Europe (Poland being another strong example) is absolutely diving head first into the fascist pool. I don't see how anyone paying attention could disagree with much of what you said.
Edit: Downvoted but not a single reply addressing anything I said. Enjoy your Fascism Europe. You're going the same way as the US whether you are opening your eyes to it or not.
You sure as hell cherry pick as much as you desire don't you?
We don't simp for Europe.
We are Europe.
Stop thinking the world revolves around you bud.
I just keep getting replies like this with zero substance. Just Europeans saying "I'm wrong". Enlighten me. In what way did I think the world revolved around me? I literally was just talking about actual things happening in Europe. Seriously, tell me what part of my comment was at all self centered? Sounds like you're just projecting.
Also, yeah, you can be a European simp AND be European. They often go hand in hand. That and hating Arabs and Eastern Europeans. All these substanceless replies are just proving my point of European supremacy and nationalism that is exploding in the EU.
How dare I point out the racism of Germany and it's support for genocide. How dare I! I'm so self centered!
Alright then a question of substance, what the hell is Antisemitsm towards Arabs supposed to mean?
Good question. Appreciate it.
The term "Semetic" comes from the Eugenics categories that originated in the 20th century. It actually has racist roots that popularized the term in Nazi Germany. There were people that proudly proclaimed to be "anti-Semitic".
Semetic was a term to describe people of a "race" from the Semetic regions. These were categorized as people that spoke Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic languages. Basically people from modern day Arab countries and Israel.
Now, the Nazis viewed Jews as "Ungerman" even though they absolutely were German people. The Jews in Germany had lived their for centuries and spoke German and Yiddish (a variant of German enough to be considered a different language). Again, the Germans viewed Yiddish as a "Semetic" corruption of the German language.
So when the Nazis said they were "Antisemitic" they were categorizing German Jews as "not belonging" and associating them with the "Semetic" region.
It was basically a way of categorizing the German Jews as outsiders in order to associate them with Arabs and the "Semetic" people.
Because of the history of Nazi Germany and the Holocaust the term "antisemitic" has evolved to basically mean "anti Jewish" today. Even though it was originally a term to "otherize" German Jews and categorize them with Arabs. It fed on the existing racism towards outsiders and categorized German Jews as such.
So when I said "Antisemitism against Arabs" I was referencing this history. As Arabs are by definition "Semetic" people.
The same type of "otherizing" of Arabs and Muslims in Germany is being done today. But this time the focus is not on Jews. But these are the same structures of racism and Fascism that existed in 1930s Germany. And there is no reason for Jewish people not to be categorized as "others" again as this fascist history repeats itself.
Careful, your complexes are overspilling.
Germany and Poland are two of your examples. Are there any other examples? Please, anyone reply with as many real examples as you can and want. I think Italy is one? Please confirm. 🥲