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[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it would help if you clarify what "propaganda" means to you, as I have a sense we mean different things.

For me, I understand propaganda as media/content/communication aimed at manipulating people towards a particular point of view. It's often characterized by reduction, misrepresentation/deception, disingenuous argument, and etc. That is also to say that I make a distinction between manipulation and persuasive argument. So, a piece of content can make an argument, display inherent biases, employ persuasive techniques, without being propaganda. That's because all forms of expression necessarily hold an ideological position.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was basically a commercial for the military from what I can remember. There wasn't subtlety. The military was put on a pedestal. People that hadn't been in the military didn't get to vote. The enemy were reduced to inhuman arachnids. It's propaganda in the same way Top Gun is.

But my point was mainly the movie and book were very different.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you arguing the book is propaganda or the society of the book is heavily propagandized? The book itself is not propaganda if you fully read it. The horrors of war are on full, gruesome display. Heroism, cowardice, death, and dismemberment to the humans and arachnids. The society of the book is heavy on the propaganda, but the book itself is not propaganda.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 1 points 2 days ago

I disagree. Goose dies in Top Gun, but that doesn't mean it's not propaganda. Starship Troopers isn't about the horrors of war, it's about how Rico overcomes all that and becomes a real man who leads others and in another sense a real person in that he gets the right to vote.