Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people
Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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These kind of problems are so complex, theres a lot of money at the top of the pyramid and they are often mostly men, if these extremes are taken off men are the ones badly paid, so the average men experience gets invalidated and they often feel worse, while the economical elite remain unaffected, just exposing the superficial company sponsored equality that are also advertised to women.
The glass ceiling that women experience is very real, that happens not just because they are woman, but also because of the capital, the stock holders that are mostly men will only favor woman that can be heartless as the position expect her to be, an behavior that comes easily when you are not so connect socially, as some men are. The woman who shatter the glass ceiling also don't do it unharmed, she often needs to compensate and often try to be even more heartless to prove they are better for the top positions, the worker and the boss both get alienated in the process.
The suicide part is a sad reality, men indeed die more from suicide, while woman try more is logically implicit that men cannot try more since they often die from the first try. It also sad that most men who die from suicide are old and white, men who feel isolated, often because they put all their value into work and do not have any alternative to derivate value from, so basically, also alienated from labor, after retirement a lot of them commit suicide since they feel worthless and abandoned for have put all their effort into money making.
I tried bring the main problems, without resorting to straw men arguments, it's such a shame that both men and woman deal with mental health issues and feel so isolated.
*Forgive me for my grammatical mistakes, I tried to be as precise as I could.