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Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.

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[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You message only people on your server? Because if not and if you federate your instance, selfhosting doesn't make a difference. Other instances will store your social graph. You're much more private using Signal even if you don't use a VPN. Since on Signal at least profiles are encrypted. And IPs change. You can only bind create a probabilistic social tree, vs on Matrix everything is bound to your account and your domain (which doesn't change).

I don't know why I'm even arguing with you. You clearly don't understand how the underlying technology and software works. You should read up on that before coming back to this thread. I'm only repeating myself here.

[–] troed@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're allowed to fantasize about Signal users all using VPN then I can fantasize about people who need that level of security all using their own server, yes :)

Feel free to drop out of the discussion at any time.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You just misundestand how it works. If nobody uses a VPN Signal is still more secure and private. It simply encrypts more information that Matrix does. The IP address is marginal compared to what long-term identifiable data Matrix knows of your conversations (literally linked to a domain and username). Since Matrix is federated, selfhosing won't shield you from leaking that information.

[–] troed@fedia.io 1 points 18 hours ago

Perhaps I simply know more about how it works than you do? :) A domain and a username is more easy to fake compared to never slipping up connecting with an identifiable IP.