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[–] [email protected] -4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

I’m as anti-fascist as the next person, but protecting a company from vandalism isn’t as fascist as you seem to want to think it is. Vandalism is illegal. They are law enforcement. That’s how that relationship works.

Would you say the same thing if they stood in front of a business that was under threat of being vandalized by MAGA clowns because they are publicly pro-diversity? At best I’d say the argument lies in the fact that they probably don’t need that many people, but we don’t really know what the reason was to load up that many stooges to protect that particular location.

Maybe some dumbass called in a threat?

Either way… go on and downvote away. I’m fully aware this isn’t the place for nuanced discussion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

if they stood in front of a business that was under threat of being vandalized by MAGA clowns

That "if" carries a heavy load.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

But it doesn’t.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Would you say the same thing if they stood in front of a business that was under threat of being vandalized by MAGA clowns because they are publicly pro-diversity?

Show me that news article.

At best I’d say the argument lies in the fact that they probably don’t need that many people, but we don’t really know what the reason was to load up that many stooges to protect that particular location.

Show of fascist force.

Maybe some dumbass called in a threat?

Yeah, Elon.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Show me that news article.

It’s a hypothetical. Look around. Communities like this use hypotheticals as the entire basis of their arguments seemingly ALL the time.

Show of fascist force.

By account of excessive use of persons? I’d agree. It’s wasteful. But stepping aside and allowing people to vandalize property just because it aligns with your personal belief is now how things work. This opens the gates for others to justify destroying your shit because they disagree with it.

Oh, and it doesn’t take being “Elon” to think it takes a dumbass to threaten physical damage to a person or place because they disagree with the owner’s politics-

It just takes being a mature adult that understands how nuance works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I guess I’m just saying it’s fascism because they always seem to protect the same side. Big business and the rich and powerful. We’re still missing the main parts of it being a dictator controlling who’s targeted, so we’re using the word hyperbolically.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That’s not what fascism is.

I swear, that definition seems to change per-topic to cover whatever the popular opinion needs it to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Your hypothetical that never applies to the real world is not "nuance".

they disagree with the owner’s politics-

"The owners politics" is Nazism.

If you decide to die on the hill protecting a Nazi, you'll be known as the guy who died on the hill protecting a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

lol! There it is! I was wondering how long it would take before one of you broke out the “you’re a Nazi because you think it’s okay for police to stop vandalism!”

I’ll go ahead and tag you as a waste of time to avoid further discussions that devolve into bullshit false-accusations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

“you’re a Nazi because you think it’s okay for police to stop vandalism!”

Obviously I was talking about Elon Musk throwing Nazi salutes and welcome Nazis onto his online platform, and obviously you were waiting for someone to bring up how Elon Musk is a Nazi, because you are fully aware Elon Musk is a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

If you decide to die on the hill protecting a Nazi, you'll be known as the guy who died on the hill protecting a Nazi.

lol….

Nothing I said was protecting a Nazi. I’m simply stating that vandalism and destruction of property is illegal- regardless of one’s beliefs.

Would I shed a tear for him if he lost this entire company to a fucking sinkhole? Nope. But I won’t applaud people violating someone’s property because they don’t agree with it.

But… YOU took what I said to mean it’s protecting a Nazi. Because using bad faith to overcome nuance in a discussion is the only way you can argue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say you were doing that, I said if you were doing that.

I’m simply stating that vandalism and destruction of property is illegal- regardless of one’s beliefs.

Sure, once upon a time, freeing slaves was illegal - regardless of one's beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago