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isn't nato formed by us and european troops/money/weapons? im pretty sure they were deployed there in numbers.
There is tons of EU countries troops in Ukraine, but officially they are all "volunteers" and "mercenaries" but there's also some more or less official NATO soldiers serving as military advisors, trainers etc. There's also events like the Polish general Marczak suddenly dying in sketchy circumstances coincidentally on the same day when Russia heavily bombed one of the mercenary bases.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
"For more than a decade, the United States has nurtured a secret intelligence partnership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia."
Sorry, are you talking about Poland? Then yes, Poland is part of NATO and there is US presence there, I'm not sure about other countries having a presence there. I thought you meant Ukraine, which is not part of the NATO.
i'm talking about ukraine. from here it isnt looking like they manufacture their own weapons, are not financing it themselves, and have a big presence of other nationalities. else they wouldnt be so keen on US and NATO support.
Most every Russian troop being killed is via drone. Something like 96% of those drones are produced in Ukraine. Funding a war is expensive, especially when you are vastly out numbered population wise. Of course they want as much aid as possible.
what? you are telling me half of the country is destroyed and ukranian troops just sniped every russian soldier from afar instead of dying to protect it.
there are probably almost a ~million people dead in each side by now.
Not by a long shot. Even Ukraine only claims in the region of 800,000 casualties on the Russian side, the majority of which are wounded not dead.
Where are you sourcing that from? (That's way higher than most are claiming for either side) Also, that has nothing to do with what we were talking about
it doesnt, i don't know what drones have to do with the fact europe and the us have indeed been helping them quite significantly all of this time. i mean who else could hold the russians for a few years now?
i think communication is cutting out though, so have a nice day.