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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

Loads of people go on about how "awe shucks, we're in the Mad Max future, instead of the Star Trek future" completely unaware that Star Trek's utopia was built on top of the ruins of a Mad Max distopia that came first.

In canon, Star Trek's utopia only happened after Earth had a nuclear WWIII followed by the Eugenics War (and several related genocides) before first contact with the Vulcans. In fact, without those wars, we might not have gotten the tech for warp drive. In further lore, after the wars of the 21st century and before first contact, there was a concerted "never again" kind of movement globally eventually resulting in the United Earth government being founded. It then took more than a century of technological and societal progress to get to the matter replicator driven post-scarcity economy.

So we could be on track for Star Trek future... but none of us will be alive to see it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

none of us will be alive to see it.

Montana looked like a safe place to survive

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

And apparently San Francisco survived, even though you would have thought it would have been a target, and Paris, and London.

Really it seems to have been an incredibly restrained war. Nothing of any actual value appears to have been destroyed.

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