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I still don't see Mozilla as a bad actor, especially in comparison with the villany that is google and microsoft. It's still a great alternative for privacy newbies and average users, although I personally made the switch to librewolf (desktop) and iceraven (mobile) a while ago. Both being forks of firefox, development for actual firefox is essential for either of these to survive, so Mozilla still has my support albeit indirectly
Mozilla’s only reason of existence right now is so that Google can skirt an antitrust case.
Edit: to be clear, that in itself makes it a bad actor.
I don't subscribe to this theory.
They don't need to keep firefox on life support to avoid an antitrust case. A chromium fork could serve the same purpose.
That might be true, but the fact that the competitor is using their engine as base could be used against them. It also doesn’t change the fact that they have Mozilla wrapped around their finger.
Not really.
There's not really any evidence of that. Sure Mozilla has done some stupid things, and they're not the champions of internet privacy we would like them to be, but it's really just hyperbole to say they're wrapped around google's finger.
I guess we just disagree what kind of influence having your company derive 90% of its income from a competitor can have.
Librewolf / IronFox for me, Mozilla can fuck right off with their cloud services, added value and hunger for telemetry. Their 2% userbase is about to shrink even further.
Oh wow, I did that exact switch yesterday upon seeing the changes.
i have ironfox on android, and you can use alternative to google play, apparently google has secretely downloaded an app" which scans your phones and sends it to google.