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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where was the straw man? I've seen this argument a thousand times when discussing politics and there's never any clarification on what they mean. Socialism is the means of production being owned by the workers, if you think that that's communism then I don't know what to tell you. It feels like you barely got past the introduction before deciding to stop watching, because he explains directly and in plain language how they are incompatible systems (the background of socialism and capitalism is an essential part)

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Socialism is the means of production being owned by the workers, if you think that that's communism then I don't know what to tell you.

Yes, that is communism. In communism also, workers control the means of production. Socialism is supposed to be the transitionary stage - where a revolution has happened, a post-revolutionary state has been built, but a classless society has not yet been achieved. A communist state is supposed to be a quasi-utopia where all the contradictions of capitalism have been overcome; there is no class, no private property, no religion, and so on.

Or at least this is what the word communism means in Marxist theory. Others may use it differently.