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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Under these conditions what is NATO?

Already-preexisting integration of most EU armies (and the rest aren't completely out of the loop) as well as Canada Turkey, Norway, and Iceland.

The long and short of it is if the US should bail out of NATO what is left is an absolute behemoth of a force with severe shortcomings in power projection and strategic airlift capacity. The latter only until Ukraine is admitted they have Antonov. Not sure whether we want much power projection but the lift capacity is a shortfall. On the upside we have more than enough stealth subs to stop others from projecting with aircraft carriers.


From the US side, strategically, this is just a self-inflicted wound: There's a couple of US soldiers in Europe as part of tripwire forces, relevant politically but not in combat terms, the rest is there to project force into the middle east. They'd be giving that up, I wonder what Israel thinks of that. The US would not have been capable to do Iraq or Afghanistan without European bases.